[LEDE-DEV] 18.06 Status?

[Alberto Bursi]

This isn't a job where you can force people to do anything.

Also, I'm not a fan of half-assing or leaving out things for the sake of 
a schedule.


-Alberto

On 05/05/2018 20:41, Fernando Frediani wrote:
> One characteristic from OpenWrt, different from other projects is the 
> lack of a leader or a person who can gather others together, make some 
> decisions or push for them to happen. If one doesn't like this title 
> it can also be "Project Manager" or "Project Coordinator". This, in my 
> view, makes a big difference for things to flow in time.
>
> Has anyone heard that saying: "A dog with many owners starves"
>
> Perhaps it is the time to adjust the Rules (https://openwrt.org/rules) 
> and add something to make it exist in benefit of the project.
>
> Fernando
>
> On 05/05/2018 07:27, Jaap Buurman wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I feel like everybody is just waiting for everybody to agree what
>> features we want in before coming up with the next step of picking a
>> date. Obviously this isn't working out very well. Why not turn things
>> around? Pick a date in a few weeks time on which the Master branch
>> will be split to a 18.0X branch. If nobody complains before that date
>> the branch goes on as planned. People can obviously get in the
>> features they want before said date. If somebody deems a particular
>> feature very important to be included in this branch, but feels like
>> it will not be finished before said date, he/she can request a delay
>> stating:
>>
>> -What he/she would like to include
>> -Why this is so important to be included before the branch.
>> -How much extra time this will need by proposing a new date
>> -Perhaps a request for help implementing said change
>>
>> Should this proposal be accepted, we will reschedule the date from
>> there. If the other people don't think it is important enough to
>> postpone the release, the old date will stand. This way, we can simply
>> move forward if nobody complains about a particular date instead of
>> the waiting around for others that is going on right now. What does
>> everybody else think of this idea? What seems like a reasonable date?
>> And who would be willing to take on the task of splitting the branch
>> at said date to make sure we'll be actually moving forward with the
>> plan at said date?
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
>> Jaap Buurman
>>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 4:41 AM, Eric Luehrsen 
>> <ericluehrsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 05/01/2018 10:47 AM, Hannu Nyman wrote:
>>>> I think that the main source tree is in pretty good shape, so 
>>>> branching
>>>> off the 18.0X rather soon might make sense....
>>>
>>> I would also think its time to branch 18.[something-soon], and 
>>> rather than
>>> focus on work that needs yet to be completed, look to cut hardware and
>>> packages that are not ready for a release. There is always some 
>>> heart ache
>>> when such decisions are made, but at a point those decisions do need 
>>> to be
>>> made. Without an official release to punctuate both the core team 
>>> and other
>>> packagers hard work, OpenWrt/LEDE could risk losing support from the
>>> community and its limited sponsorship. I imagine this project means
>>> something personally to the core team, so those risks should be 
>>> considered.
>>>
>>> - Eric
>>>
>>>
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