[LEDE-DEV] [AD] support me hacking on OpenWrt/LEDE

[David Lang]

May I suggest that you talk directly rather than through the mailing list?

David Lang

On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, lede-project at bepo.de wrote:

> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 13:51:21 +0200
> From: "lede-project at bepo.de" <lede-project at bepo.de>
> To: lede-dev at lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: [LEDE-DEV] [AD] support me hacking on OpenWrt/LEDE
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> as I already says: I think it was good way to payback the active
> community. So we talking about the possibility for you to continue your
> work on lede-project.org, but as an employer in our company.
> I have a the moment not enough time to a detailed answer your mail, but
> I can understand your concern.
> Our company is a "eierlegendewollmichsau". :-)
> We support Windows, Mac and do a lot of Linux-Stuff in background. We
> try to push proprietary solutions out and replace it with FLOSS (GPL) or
> minimal a opensource (BSD/MIT/...) solution. Our customer are small
> companies (KMU), these are flexible enough to try our way.
> We create stuff (but not only) like VPN, multi WAN, WLAN with multiple
> AP, directional radio links and similar with OpenWRT/LEDE. It was always
> a pain, but often the only way for our customer to get high-level
> functionality without CISCO and similar. If you can help us to provide
> better service, that would be great, but if you work only on important
> low-level stuff for LEDE (which I see here in this mailinglist) that is
> also ok for us.
>
> I shall write more today night, hope to decrease your concern.
>
> Cheers
> Benni
>
> Am 03.04.2017 um 12:05 schrieb Daniel Golle:
>> Hi Benni,
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 11:30:45AM +0200, lede-project at bepo.de wrote:
>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>
>>> I have explore the patreon site becauce I do not know it before. Short:
>>> I do not like this service at all (5% fee, only paypal/creditcard, ...)
>>>
>>> If you in Germany/Leipzig and a german citizen, so I can offer you an
>>> Midi-Job (witch include a health insurance).
>>
>> That'd be amazing, obviously :)
>>
>>>
>>> We use lot of openwrt (and freifunk) a couple of years (and try use LEDE
>>> now), so it was a good style for us to payback the active community. And
>>> IMHO better then collecting cash via patreon's "Klingelbeutel".
>>
>> For sure. I also try to avoid receiving payments through patreon,
>> but only a small fraction of the people who are supporting me right now
>> are from within the EU and hence have access to free SEPA transfers.
>> And if people provide $$$ outside of patreon I need to do all the paper
>> work (and when counting the hours for that 5% seems to be not too bad of
>> a deal...)
>> Some others offered sending bitcoin and such, which I for now refuse
>> because I don't even know how the boureaucracy (tax-wise) works in that
>> case, because they obviously want to remain anonymous and hence I can't
>> know their name and address and all that...
>>
>>>
>>> Our office is in Hamburg, but we want open a small office in Leipzig
>>> this year (asap).
>>>
>>> Is this a option for you, or is this a stupid idea?
>>
>> Depends on what you want me to do. The difference here is that patreon
>> allows me to do what I believe is important or fun to do and people
>> can reward me for that or just support me even for reasons beyond my
>> own understanding. A job, opposed to that, usually comes with quite
>> different expectations of the people who provide the cash. I usually
>> don't survive in those settings, because I'm not a very obediant
>> person (apparently so) and I simply cannot force myself to do things
>> which I don't believe in myself. If I try anyway, I very quickly get
>> very depressed, sick and angry, because I truely hate the outcomes of
>> most commercially motivated technological progress (such as selling
>> more useless stuff, knowing more about customers, brainwashing people
>> into mindless and ultra-dependent isolated consumers, ...)
>> Excuses like 'but we need to make a business somehow' don't count and
>> don't really increase my motivation...
>> Hence I shifted my commercial activity to work in kitchens most of
>> the time, because making good food doesn't contradict with my own will
>> and my expectations towards food seem to correlate with the taste and
>> expectations of the people entering the restaurant... Business-wise
>> that didn't work well, the restaurant had to close last year due to
>> increasing rent and labour costs (they payed minimum wage)...
>>
>> Anyway, all that may all sound too harsh and I don't even know what
>> your company is doing. Maybe it's totally what I believe would be great
>> to do and have on this planet, create a future which I'd want to live
>> in and so on... So please tell me more :)
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Benni
>>>
>>> Am 22.03.2017 um 11:22 schrieb Daniel Golle:
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> most of you might know me for hacking on embedded stuff while having
>>>> the common good in mind. Because I'm practically always out of money,
>>>> I decided to setup a patreon account which can help me to gather at
>>>> least the $$$ needed to pay for obligatory health insurance and such
>>>> things. It'd be great if you spread the word and also give me feedback
>>>> (off-list!) so I can improve my patreon page.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.patreon.com/dangowrt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
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