[OpenWrt-Devel] Introducing the LEDE project

Roman Yeryomin leroi.lists at gmail.com
Wed May 4 14:00:32 PDT 2016


On 4 May 2016 at 23:19, tapper <j.lancett at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On 04/05/2016 21:01, mbm wrote:
>>
>> Dear OpenWrt community,
>>
>> It is with a great amount of surprise that, like all of you, we read
>> about the announcement of the LEDE project yesterday, as there was no
>> prior announcement nor clues this would happen.
>>
>> While we recognize the current OpenWrt project suffers from a number of
>> issues outlined by Jo-Philip, in each of the 5 bullet points, we do not
>> agree with the conclusions withdrawn, and even less so in deciding to
>> spin off the OpenWrt project in the first place as a way to fix the
>> project and its community. Also, the phrases such as a "reboot" are both
>> vague and misleading and the LEDE project failed to identify its true
>> nature. The LEDE announcement  contains a number of very valid points
>> which we hoped we had an opportunity to discuss and attempt to fix, in a
>> public manner, before this more radical outcome. At this point, the
>> email as well as actions taken are very confusing to a lot of us.
>>
>> OpenWrt is primarily developed by individuals who may have a day job
>> more or less related to the purpose or the technologies of the project,
>> but who strive to maintain OpenWrt as independent as possible  from any
>> company, organization or interest group, thus maintaining its own
>> infrastructure (website, forums, mailing-lists, bugtracker...), which
>> has been usually at the heart of all debates.
>>
>> We do acknowledge there has been internal disagreements, on several
>> occasions about some directions of the project, about the release model,
>> the lack of testing, the centralized infrastructure, however, there have
>> been actual work going on under the hoods to solve things one step at a
>> time, starting with a more decentralized infrastructure, which was
>> discussed with the LEDE developers as well.
>>
>> At this point, we do not have much to offer to the LEDE developers but
>> to encourage them to publicly discuss on
>> openwrt-devel at lists.openwrt.org the different items we should all be
>> fixing together, and avoid spinning off so that all decisions can be
>> taken with the community's involvement, and accountability and
>> transparency can rule us as one community.
>>
>> As a user, developer, contributor, or just community member, whatever
>> choice you make, keep the choice that matters to you: the ability to
>> utilize superior quality open source software to power whatever embedded
>> device that matters to you!
>>
>> We would like to stress that we do want to have an open discussion and
>> resolve matters at hand. Our goal is to work with all parties who can
>> and want to contribute to OpenWrt, including the LEDE team.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Your OpenWrt team
>> ______________
>
>
> But just who is "Your OpenWrt team?"
> After all the talk about fixing the website and the forum we as the openwrt
> end users got jack shit! Even wen we offered to do things for you.
>

Probably one of the problems is that not all read all communication
channels. I think that developers are more used to mailing list.
Blaming only those who left doesn't make any sense, IMO all are responsible.

Regards,
Roman



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