[PATCH RFC 00/11] makedumpfile: parallel processing

Atsushi Kumagai ats-kumagai at wm.jp.nec.com
Thu Dec 10 00:14:41 PST 2015


>Hello Kumagai,
>
>On 12/04/2015 10:30 AM, Atsushi Kumagai wrote:
>> Hello, Zhou
>>
>>> On 12/02/2015 03:24 PM, Dave Young wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> On 12/02/15 at 01:29pm, "Zhou, Wenjian/周文剑" wrote:
>>>>> I think there is no problem if other test results are as expected.
>>>>>
>>>>> --num-threads mainly reduces the time of compressing.
>>>>> So for lzo, it can't do much help at most of time.
>>>>
>>>> Seems the help of --num-threads does not say it exactly:
>>>>
>>>>     [--num-threads THREADNUM]:
>>>>         Using multiple threads to read and compress data of each page in parallel.
>>>>         And it will reduces time for saving DUMPFILE.
>>>>         This feature only supports creating DUMPFILE in kdump-comressed format from
>>>>         VMCORE in kdump-compressed format or elf format.
>>>>
>>>> Lzo is also a compress method, it should be mentioned that --num-threads only
>>>> supports zlib compressed vmcore.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, it seems that something I said is not so clear.
>>> lzo is also supported. Since lzo compresses data at a high speed, the
>>> improving of the performance is not so obvious at most of time.
>>>
>>>> Also worth to mention about the recommended -d value for this feature.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I think it's worth. I forgot it.
>>
>> I saw your patch, but I think I should confirm what is the problem first.
>>
>>> However, when "-d 31" is specified, it will be worse.
>>> Less than 50 buffers are used to cache the compressed page.
>>> And even the page has been filtered, it will also take a buffer.
>>> So if "-d 31" is specified, the filtered page will use a lot
>>> of buffers. Then the page which needs to be compressed can't
>>> be compressed parallel.
>>
>> Could you explain why compression will not be parallel in more detail ?
>> Actually the buffers are used also for filtered pages, it sounds inefficient.
>> However, I don't understand why it prevents parallel compression.
>>
>
>Think about this, in a huge memory, most of the page will be filtered, and
>we have 5 buffers.
>
>page1       page2      page3     page4     page5      page6       page7 .....
>[buffer1]   [2]        [3]       [4]       [5]
>unfiltered  filtered   filtered  filtered  filtered   unfiltered  filtered
>
>Since filtered page will take a buffer, when compressing page1,
>page6 can't be compressed at the same time.
>That why it will prevent parallel compression.

Thanks for your explanation, I understand.
This is just an issue of the current implementation, there is no
reason to stand this restriction.

>> Further, according to Chao's benchmark, there is a big performance
>> degradation even if the number of thread is 1. (58s vs 240s)
>> The current implementation seems to have some problems, we should
>> solve them.
>>
>
>If "-d 31" is specified, on the one hand we can't save time by compressing
>parallel, on the other hand we will introduce some extra work by adding
>"--num-threads". So it is obvious that it will have a performance degradation.

Sure, there must be some overhead due to "some extra work"(e.g. exclusive lock), 
but "--num-threads=1 is 4 times slower than --num-threads=0" still sounds
too slow, the degradation is too big to be called "some extra work".

Both --num-threads=0 and --num-threads=1 are serial processing, 
the above "buffer fairness issue" will not be related to this degradation.
What do you think what make this degradation ?

>I'm not so sure if it is a problem that the performance degradation is so big.
>But I think if in other cases, it works as expected, this won't be a problem(
>or a problem needs to be fixed), for the performance degradation existing
>in theory.	
>
>Or the current implementation should be replaced by a new arithmetic.
>For example:
>We can add an array to record whether the page is filtered or not.
>And only the unfiltered page will take the buffer.

We should discuss how to implement new mechanism, I'll mention this later.

>But I'm not sure if it is worth.
>For "-l -d 31" is fast enough, the new arithmetic also can't do much help.

Basically the faster, the better. There is no obvious target time.
If there is room for improvement, we should do it.


Thanks,
Atsushi Kumagai


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