[PATCH 00/14] RFC: x86: relocatable kernel changes
H. Peter Anvin
h.peter.anvin at intel.com
Fri May 8 01:31:39 EDT 2009
Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Peter do you plan to update pxelinux or other bootloaders to use the
> relocatable kernel feature?
Yes.
> The direction of this patch seems reasonable. The details are broken.
> The common case for relocatable kernels today is kdump. A situation
> with very minimal memory. In that situation the kernel needs to run
> where we put it, modifying the kernel to not run where it gets put
> is a problem.
I thought in the kdump case you typically loaded it pretty high? Either
which way, kdump is always loaded by kexec, so it should just be a
matter of updating kexec to zero the runtime_start field, no? Basically
this is the bootloader saying "do what I say, dammit." Since the
existing protocol doesn't have a way to unambiguously communicate one
direction versus another (see below), it seems like a relatively small
issue involving only one tool. Suboptimal, yes.
> With the code as it is today you can get the exact same behavior
> by simply bumping up the minimum alignment to 16MB, and a lot less code
> and no changes needed to any bootloaders.
>
> Is your goal to setup a scenario where on small memory systems a bootloader
> like pxelinux can support a relocatable kernel and load it a lower
> address? If so that seems reasonable.
Yes.
> With that said how about we change the logic to:
>
> if (load_addr == legacy_load_addr) /* 0x100000 */
> use config_physical_start
> else if aligned
> noop
> else
> /* Crap this is bad align the kernel and hope something works. */
>
> That gets the desired behavior we override bootloaders that are not
> smart and taking relocation into account. I am really not comfortable
> with having code that will override a bootloader doing something
> reasonable.
I'm not sure that is quite right either, because if alignment is
configured to be 1 MB or less then 1 MB is a perfectly legitimate
address for a relocating bootloader to want to use, even if it is not
configured in. It would be more than a bit odd to not have that be
permitted.
> I expect we will still want to update kexec to be able to take
> advantage of loadtime_size (runtime_size seems like the wrong name).
Well, it is the amount of memory the kernel needs during runtime (as
opposed to during loading.) I admit it's not an ideal name, though. On
the other hand, simply calling it kernel_start and kernel_size seemed
ambiguous.
-hpa
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