I've fixed it. http://peterscott.eu/freeScripts/getPids_html appears to work for TV as well now. Sorry I can't get these three posts to link. I'm having trouble using gmail to reply to the list. Peter -- email: p.scott at shu.ac.uk website: http://peterscott.eu NB: My mobile is a "not at home" phone; I don't hear or see it at home.