Changes at BBC Resulting in PVR Duplicates

[George Eycott]

Sorry, that was supposed to be cut and pasted into a reply to Peter's query
but somehow got sent before I sorted it out....



-----Original Message-----
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-bounces at lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of George Eycott
Sent: 12 August 2015 22:02
To: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
Subject: RE: Changes at BBC Resulting in PVR Duplicates

BBC started changing them a few months ago, it seems they have done them a
few at a time - see the text of a mail I sent about it back then:

" The BBC changed their podcast system a few weeks ago which resulted in my
podcast download system re-fetching years worth of programmes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/faqs/podcast_changes_2015

and more details here

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/playing_radio_progs/podcast_chang
es

RSS pages have moved (in theory the old ones redirect but it didn't work for
all my subscriptions).

Note I use castget on my Qnap box to get podcasts, keeping GIP for radio
that either does not have a podcast or individual shows."

I am finding the re-fetching of programmes has been fixed as the feeds get
switched over, but the redirects are still flakey. As I spot they have been
switched I change my podcast script to look at the new source.

-----Original Message-----
From: George Eycott [mailto:george at eycott.co.uk]
Sent: 30 June 2015 11:48
To: 'get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org' <get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org>
Subject: RE: Changes at BBC Resulting in PVR Duplicates

The BBC changed their podcast system a few weeks ago which resulted in my
podcast download system re-fetching years worth of programmes.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/faqs/podcast_changes_2015

and more details here

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help/playing_radio_progs/podcast_chang
es

RSS pages have moved (in theory the old ones redirect but it didn't work for
all my subscriptions).

Note I use castget on my Qnap box to get podcasts, keeping GIP for radio
that either does not have a podcast or individual shows.

-----Original Message-----
From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-bounces at lists.infradead.org] On Behalf
Of Vangelis forthnet
Sent: 30 June 2015 02:02
To: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Changes at BBC Resulting in PVR Duplicates

On Tue Jun 30 00:02:33 BST 2015, Budgie wrote:

> One of the programmes is The Early Music Show.
> I save both the full broadcast .m4a version which is titled as "The 
> Early Music Show" and the mp3 podcast abridged version which has been 
> titled "Early Music Show"
> I have just found about 180 no.  .mp3 files entitled "The Early Music 
> Show" in my recordings directory.  These appear to be duplicates of 
> the original .mp3 downloads but with the different title and pid.
> Anybody understand why this might be or have the same situation?

Hi - win32 here, but this is how things look to me:

get_iplayer --type=radio -f --force
get_iplayer --type=radio "The Early Music Show"

yields:

Matches:
12918:  The Early Music Show - Ensemble Organum at the Aldeburgh Festival,
BBC R adio 3,

INFO: 1 Matching Programmes

which in fact is:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b060bprr

This gets you your .m4a file.

However,

get_iplayer --type=podcast -f --force
get_iplayer --type=podcast "The Early Music Show"

yields:

(humongous snip)
INFO: 177 Matching Programmes
(BTW, all those podcasts are UK-only...:-( ).

These 177 "The Early Music Show" podcasts
(MP3 files) are the ones that can be individually manually downloaded (in
the UK) from:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006tn49/episodes/downloads
The "Updated: weekly - Episodes available: indefinitely"
bit on top is a sign that this number should grow by (at least) 1 each and
every week...

So if your PVR search is of the type:

get_iplayer --type=radio,podcast "The Early Music Show" --pvr-add="The Early
Music Show"

when that is run it'll get you 178 audio files (1M4A+177MP3s).
I believe this is the explanation you want...

I scarcely use the PVR feature, so am not really an expert on this...
Remove "podcast" from your PVR search, so you'd at least get your M4A file;
as for the podcast, it might simply boil down to a manual download from the
above referenced link.
Your post seems to suggest there's an abridged podcast version (made
available indefinitely) for every full episode broadcast weekly (which only
lives on iplayer for a month), however this is not apparent to me; for
instance, the latest 2015 podcast is dated Sun 26 Apr 2015 (pid=b05s3cjc).
More savvy people on the list may offer advice on how you'd get both M4A+MP3
files via a PVR search in the occasion where both are available for the same
weekly broadcast...
Have not time to dissect your "In Our Time" issue, I believe the logic
behind it is the same...

Regards,
Vangelis 


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