From philip at colmer.me.uk  Tue Sep  2 08:48:41 2014
From: philip at colmer.me.uk (Philip Colmer)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 16:48:41 +0100
Subject: PVR script not running reliably
Message-ID: <DUB404-EAS144FFF7CFA50D7ACA6D2C72F2C70@phx.gbl>

I'm using the get_iplayer--pvr.bat script on a Windows system. It seemed to
be working fine until something happened that caused the programmes cache
not to be updated, so the PVR stopped realising it needed to grab anything.

So then I updated the script to do this:

perl.exe get_iplayer.pl --refresh --type=radio
perl.exe get_iplayer.pl --refresh
perl.exe get_iplayer.pl --pvr

The script works perfectly when I run it by hand but nothing happens when
the script is run via the Windows Task Scheduler. The task scheduler doesn't
appear to be reporting any problems. The security log is showing that my
credentials are being used to run the script and that I'm being "logged off"
17 seconds later so clearly the script isn't busy for very long :-(.

Is this a situation that anyone else has encountered before?

Thanks.

Philip




From jn.ml.gti.91 at wingsandbeaks.org.uk  Tue Sep  2 11:49:52 2014
From: jn.ml.gti.91 at wingsandbeaks.org.uk (Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer)
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 19:49:52 +0100
Subject: PVR script not running reliably
In-Reply-To: <DUB404-EAS144FFF7CFA50D7ACA6D2C72F2C70@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB404-EAS144FFF7CFA50D7ACA6D2C72F2C70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <mpro.nbaez400ca8tk027c@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>

Philip Colmer <philip at colmer.me.uk> wrote:

>I'm using the get_iplayer--pvr.bat script on a Windows system. It seemed to
>be working fine until something happened that caused the programmes cache
>not to be updated, so the PVR stopped realising it needed to grab anything.
>
>So then I updated the script to do this:
>
>perl.exe get_iplayer.pl --refresh --type=radio
>perl.exe get_iplayer.pl --refresh
>perl.exe get_iplayer.pl --pvr
>
>The script works perfectly when I run it by hand 

- do you mean double-clicking the file containing the script, or do you mean
selecting the script's task scheduler entry and telling task scheduler to
run it?

> but nothing happens when the script is run via the Windows Task Scheduler.

Just when it does it according to the schedule or also when it does it when
you tell it to run a script as a one-off?


> The task scheduler doesn't appear to be reporting any problems. The
> security log is showing that my credentials are being used to run the
> script and that I'm being "logged off" 17 seconds later so clearly the
> script isn't busy for very long :-(.

Do you have sensible defaults set in get_iplayer's options file?

I mean, is it possible that when you run the script "by hand" you're
implicitly telling it which directory to use as a basis for file paths, say,
but when the scheduled task runs that's not the case?


On your system, can you run:

   perl.exe get_iplayer.pl --refresh

from a command window successfully?  Does it matter what directory is
current in the command window when you try that?   For this to work,
'perl.exe' must be installed on PATH, ie findable by the OS.  What's more,
get_iplayer.pl, since you've not included its full path on that command,
must also be findable.  I think I'd expect you to need

   perl.exe "C:\your\path\to\getiplayer.pl" --refresh

or even 

   "C:\the\path\toperl\perl.exe" "C:\your\path\to\getiplayer.pl" --refresh  
 




I do successfully run get_iplayer commands from a schedule, but I do it with
a front-end program that I wrote, which constructs very long command lines
with many specified parameters on them, partly to avoid this sort of
problem, and partly because I run the schedule on several machines with
machine-specific parameters. 


-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.


From chrisjbrady at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  4 03:34:06 2014
From: chrisjbrady at yahoo.com (Chris J Brady)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 03:34:06 -0700
Subject: Windows PVM working just fine, but ....
Message-ID: <1409826846.819.YahooMailBasic@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

am consistently getting:

ERROR: Thumbnail Download failed

CJB.


From shevek at shevek.co.uk  Thu Sep  4 11:58:43 2014
From: shevek at shevek.co.uk (Shevek)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 19:58:43 +0100
Subject: Windows PVM working just fine, but ....
In-Reply-To: <1409826846.819.YahooMailBasic@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1409826846.819.YahooMailBasic@web120703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CANGN4UMaSCd5fZLx6L0Kmvu_HKmJGcjE9WkUAhuGGa2B1jLRBQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 4 September 2014 11:34, Chris J Brady <chrisjbrady at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> am consistently getting:
>
> ERROR: Thumbnail Download failed
>

Is this any help?

http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2014-March/005570.html


From chrisjbrady at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  4 14:03:09 2014
From: chrisjbrady at yahoo.com (Chris J Brady)
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 14:03:09 -0700
Subject: Windows PVM working just fine, but ....
In-Reply-To: <CANGN4UMaSCd5fZLx6L0Kmvu_HKmJGcjE9WkUAhuGGa2B1jLRBQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1409864589.41761.YahooMailBasic@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Thank you for the links. Actually I don't really need the thumbnails. Also I was confirming that the PVM script is working OK. Chris B.

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 4/9/14, Shevek <shevek at shevek.co.uk> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Windows PVM working just fine, but ....
 To: "get_iplayer" <get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org>
 Date: Thursday, 4 September, 2014, 19:58
 
 On 4 September 2014
 11:34, Chris J Brady <chrisjbrady at yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 >
 > am consistently
 getting:
 >
 > ERROR:
 Thumbnail Download failed
 >
 
 Is this any help?
 
 http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2014-March/005570.html
 
 _______________________________________________
 get_iplayer mailing list
 get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
 http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
 


From philip at colmer.me.uk  Fri Sep  5 03:45:07 2014
From: philip at colmer.me.uk (Philip Colmer)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 11:45:07 +0100
Subject: PVR script not running reliably
In-Reply-To: <mpro.nbaez400ca8tk027c@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>
References: <DUB404-EAS144FFF7CFA50D7ACA6D2C72F2C70@phx.gbl>
 <mpro.nbaez400ca8tk027c@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>
Message-ID: <DUB404-EAS43089BAB456B84337705F7FF2C20@phx.gbl>

> but nothing happens when the script is run via the Windows Task
> Scheduler.

I got to the bottom of this and thought I'd share the outcome in case there
are any other Windows users that might be affected by this.

It looks like Windows 8/Windows Server 2012 broke Task Scheduler in that if
a task is running but the user is not logged in, the profile doesn't get
loaded, so the path is wrong. So, in my case, the task was running but under
the wrong context so the "wrong" cache files were being updated and no pvr
settings were being found.

There is a KB article referencing this
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2968540/en-gb) but I couldn't get the
workaround to work for me. Instead, I copied the three "set" commands from
http://forum.bittorrent.com/topic/18326-start-sync-as-service-on-windows/pag
e-4 into the start of my get_iplayer--pvr script and that has fixed the
problem.

Regards

Philip



From dinkypumpkin at gmail.com  Fri Sep  5 05:31:52 2014
From: dinkypumpkin at gmail.com (dinkypumpkin)
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 13:31:52 +0100
Subject: PVR script not running reliably
In-Reply-To: <DUB404-EAS43089BAB456B84337705F7FF2C20@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB404-EAS144FFF7CFA50D7ACA6D2C72F2C70@phx.gbl>
 <mpro.nbaez400ca8tk027c@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>
 <DUB404-EAS43089BAB456B84337705F7FF2C20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5409AD38.1030100@gmail.com>

On 05/09/2014 11:45, Philip Colmer wrote:
>> but nothing happens when the script is run via the Windows Task
>> Scheduler.
>
> I got to the bottom of this and thought I'd share the outcome in case there
> are any other Windows users that might be affected by this.

Thanks for sharing the solution.  It's good to have this kind of thing 
in the list archive for future reference.  That KB article brought a 
tear to my eye - and not the good kind :}




From jn.ml.gti.91 at wingsandbeaks.org.uk  Fri Sep  5 15:57:07 2014
From: jn.ml.gti.91 at wingsandbeaks.org.uk (Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer)
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 23:57:07 +0100
Subject: PVR script not running reliably
In-Reply-To: <DUB404-EAS43089BAB456B84337705F7FF2C20@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB404-EAS144FFF7CFA50D7ACA6D2C72F2C70@phx.gbl> 
 <mpro.nbaez400ca8tk027c@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid> 
 <DUB404-EAS43089BAB456B84337705F7FF2C20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <mpro.nbgaf700287ev01ps@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>

Philip Colmer <philip at colmer.me.uk> wrote:

> It looks like Windows 8/Windows Server 2012 broke Task Scheduler in that
> if a task is running but the user is not logged in, the profile doesn't
> get loaded, so the path is wrong.

>There is a KB article referencing this
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2968540/en-gb 

Maybe (it's not clear from that KB) tasks will work ok if they are run under
the Administrator id (something that never gets logged in, unlike a normal
user).  But you might still have to specify paths explicitly, or use eg:

  --profiledir "C:\xxx\yyy\zzz\iPlayerCachesEtc"


> but I couldn't get the workaround to work for me.

The KB article suggests that starting a dummy process a minute earlier would
work, but I wonder if there's any reason why one minute should be expected
always to work.  Maybe on a heavily used machine it would sometimes need to
start even earlier.  What's more, though they don't say, I assume the dummy
process would need to start and continue to exist right up to the start of
one's task, or maybe past that point.  Perhaps a better way would be to
start the 'dummy' task, have it wait for 60 secs, and then have it issue the
perl commands as sub-processes. 
 
-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.


From jn.ml.gti.91 at wingsandbeaks.org.uk  Tue Sep  9 16:19:34 2014
From: jn.ml.gti.91 at wingsandbeaks.org.uk (Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 00:19:34 +0100
Subject: Funny characters in the cache files
Message-ID: <mpro.nbnq4m001a3pm01cg@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>

There's a TV programme at the moment named: "The ?100k House".  In the
tv.cache file, this programme's name is stored as: "The ??100k House" - that
is there's an unexpected character - hex &c2 - before the pound sign.  It
means that a search for, say, "The ?100" won't find this programme.

I'm wondering if this is fixable?
 

I've also seen something similar when foreign characters occur in programme
or episode names, eg:

  |6. John Craven's Fj??llr??ven|

(episode 6 of series 4 of "fags, Mags and Bags" - see:
 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010y376 )

which surprises me less; I presume this occurs because double-byte
(unicode?) characters have been used in the midst of an otherwise
single-byte encoded string.

-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.


From dinkypumpkin at gmail.com  Wed Sep 10 02:28:16 2014
From: dinkypumpkin at gmail.com (dinkypumpkin)
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:28:16 +0100
Subject: Funny characters in the cache files
In-Reply-To: <mpro.nbnq4m001a3pm01cg@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>
References: <mpro.nbnq4m001a3pm01cg@wingsandbeaks.org.uk.invalid>
Message-ID: <541019B0.9040802@gmail.com>

On 10/09/2014 00:19, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote:
> There's a TV programme at the moment named: "The ?100k House".  In the
> tv.cache file, this programme's name is stored as: "The ??100k House" - that
> is there's an unexpected character - hex &c2 - before the pound sign.  It

Open the cache file as UTF-8.

> means that a search for, say, "The ?100" won't find this programme.
>
> I'm wondering if this is fixable?

A fix for using non-ASCII chars in search args is coming soon in the 
next release.


From geoff.getiplayer at alphaworks.co.uk  Sun Sep 14 09:20:50 2014
From: geoff.getiplayer at alphaworks.co.uk (Geoff Soper)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 17:20:50 +0100
Subject: Can't find Horizon episode using PVR interface
Message-ID: <5415C062.8080008@alphaworks.co.uk>

Hi,
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04g507y (Horizon - Allergies: Modern 
Life and Me) is showing on-line as being available for three days longer 
but I can't find it using the web PVR interface. I've searched for it in 
various ways (name, episode) and have also tried putting 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04g507y/horizon-20142015-3-allergies-modern-life-and-me/ 
in the Quick URL field. I can only find episodes  6, 10 and 12 in the 
current Horizon series which seems a little suspicious.

I've had a similar issue with a radio programme in the past but I think 
that was due to it being a radio programme that was available for a 
whole year. That discussion can be found at 
http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2012-October/003619.html

Many thanks,
Geoff


From mail at john-eason.co.uk  Sun Sep 14 10:18:00 2014
From: mail at john-eason.co.uk (J K.Eason)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 18:18 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Can't find Horizon episode using PVR interface
In-Reply-To: <5415C062.8080008@alphaworks.co.uk>
Message-ID: <memo.20140914181849.5840A@jeason.cix.co.uk>

> *From:* Geoff Soper <geoff.getiplayer at alphaworks.co.uk>
> *To:* get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> *Date:* Sun, 14 Sep 2014 17:20:50 +0100
> 
> Hi,
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04g507y (Horizon - Allergies: 
> Modern Life and Me) is showing on-line as being available for three 
> days longer but I can't find it using the web PVR interface. I've 
> searched for it in various ways (name, episode) and have also tried 
> putting 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04g507y/horizon-20142015-3-all
> ergies-modern-life-and-me/ in the Quick URL field. I can only find 
> episodes  6, 10 and 12 in the current Horizon series which seems a 
> little suspicious.
> 
> I've had a similar issue with a radio programme in the past but I 
> think that was due to it being a radio programme that was available 
> for a whole year. That discussion can be found at 
> http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2012-October/003619
> .html
> 
> Many thanks,
> Geoff

I've just checked and it *is* available using the command line and PID
although I stopped the download halfway through:
 
C:\Program Files\get_iplayer>get_iplayer --pid=b04g507y
get_iplayer v2.86, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details use
--warranty.
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under
certain
  conditions; use --conditions for details.

INFO: Episode-only pid detected
INFO: Trying pid: b04g507y using type: tv
INFO: Trying to stream pid using type tv
INFO: pid not found in tv cache
INFO: Checking existence of default version
INFO: flashhigh2,flashhigh1,flashlow1,flashlow2,flashstd1,flashstd2 modes
will be tried for version default
INFO: Trying flashhigh2 mode to record tv: Horizon - 2014-2015: Allergies:
3. Modern Life and Me
INFO: File name prefix = Horizon - 2014-2015 Allergies 3. Modern Life and
Me
RTMPDump v2.4
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license:
GPL
Connecting ...
INFO: Connected...
Starting download at: 0.000 kB
INFO: Metadata:
INFO:   duration              3538.08
INFO:   moovPosition          36.00
INFO:   width                 640.00
INFO:   height                360.00
INFO:   videocodecid          avc1
INFO:   audiocodecid          mp4a
INFO:   avcprofile            77.00
INFO:   avclevel              30.00
INFO:   aacaot                2.00
INFO:   videoframerate        25.00
INFO:   audiosamplerate       48000.00
INFO:   audiochannels         2.00
INFO: trackinfo:
INFO:   length                88452000.00
INFO:   timescale             25000.00
INFO:   language              und
INFO: sampledescription:
INFO:   sampletype            avc1
INFO:   length                169827328.00
INFO:   timescale             48000.00
INFO:   language              und
INFO: sampledescription:
INFO:   sampletype            mp4a
175022.835 kB / 1774.48 sec (50.1%)
<snip>

Regards
       John


From dinkypumpkin at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 10:33:02 2014
From: dinkypumpkin at gmail.com (dinkypumpkin)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 18:33:02 +0100
Subject: Can't find Horizon episode using PVR interface
In-Reply-To: <5415C062.8080008@alphaworks.co.uk>
References: <5415C062.8080008@alphaworks.co.uk>
Message-ID: <5415D14E.1010801@gmail.com>

On 14/09/2014 17:20, Geoff Soper wrote:
> Hi,
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04g507y (Horizon - Allergies: Modern
> Life and Me) is showing on-line as being available for three days longer
> but I can't find it using the web PVR interface. I've searched for it in
> various ways (name, episode) and have also tried putting
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04g507y/horizon-20142015-3-allergies-modern-life-and-me/
> in the Quick URL field. I can only find episodes  6, 10 and 12 in the
> current Horizon series which seems a little suspicious.

Take a closer look at your search results.  The episodes 10 and 12 you 
see are not from the current series.  They are web-only episodes taken 
from previous series.  Only the most recent episode from the current 
series is available, which is typical.

Even if the episode is still available via the series web site, 
get_iplayer won't find it via search because it's over a week old and no 
longer present in the BBC data feeds.  Another clue is that the episode 
isn't available through the iPlayer site, so very unlikely to be found 
via get_iplayer search.

Using your episode URL in the Quick URL field works fine here.  You 
don't say what happens when you try to record the programme, so there's 
no way even to guess what may be going wrong on your end.



From jmw at debian.org  Sun Sep 14 11:24:41 2014
From: jmw at debian.org (Jonathan Wiltshire)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 19:24:41 +0100
Subject: Debian freeze approaching; release plans
Message-ID: <07206620bced54b62e06ce337d3db9c0@hogwarts.powdarrmonkey.net>

Hi,

Is there likely to be a new get_iplayer release before the end of 
October?
The freeze for Debian 8.0 begins then, and I need to plan whether to add
patches to 2.86 or pull a new upstream release.

Thanks,

-- 
Jonathan Wiltshire                                      jmw at debian.org
Debian Developer                         http://people.debian.org/~jmw

4096R: 0xD3524C51 / 0A55 B7C5 1223 3942 86EC  74C3 5394 479D D352 4C51

<directhex> i have six years of solaris sysadmin experience, from
             8->10. i am well qualified to say it is made from bonghits
			layered on top of bonghits


From dinkypumpkin at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 13:32:25 2014
From: dinkypumpkin at gmail.com (dinkypumpkin)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 21:32:25 +0100
Subject: Debian freeze approaching; release plans
In-Reply-To: <07206620bced54b62e06ce337d3db9c0@hogwarts.powdarrmonkey.net>
References: <07206620bced54b62e06ce337d3db9c0@hogwarts.powdarrmonkey.net>
Message-ID: <5415FB59.5050803@gmail.com>

On 14/09/2014 19:24, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> Is there likely to be a new get_iplayer release before the end of October?

Yes


From dinkypumpkin at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 14:49:10 2014
From: dinkypumpkin at gmail.com (dinkypumpkin)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:49:10 +0100
Subject: Can't find Horizon episode using PVR interface
In-Reply-To: <5415FFBA.1070504@alphaworks.co.uk>
References: <5415C062.8080008@alphaworks.co.uk> <5415D14E.1010801@gmail.com>
 <5415FFBA.1070504@alphaworks.co.uk>
Message-ID: <54160D56.70403@gmail.com>

On 14/09/2014 21:51, geoff.getiplayer at alphaworks.co.uk wrote:

Reply to the list, not to me.

> Well spotted on the episodes 10 and 12!

But I was wrong about your episode not being on the iPlayer site.  It is 
there after all, but that still doesn't mean a get_iplayer search will 
find it.

> So, to fill in a gap in my understanding, how does get_iplayer get its
> view of what programmes are available? I noticed that recently
> get_iplayer didn't see the week's worth of radio programmes with the
> four week expiry date beyond the normal week whereas (I think) the
> iPhone app did. I think about a week's worth of radio had longer expiry
> dates after some service failure (I was out of the UK at the time)...

The data feeds used by get_iplayer contain only the previous 7 days of 
programme broadcasts.  The exception is that certain series (e.g., some 
BBC-produced shows like Doctor Who) have all their episodes available in 
the feeds as a "series catch-up".  As with Horizon, older episodes of 
other series may still be available, but you'll need to use URLs or PIDs 
to get them.  They won't appear in the results of a get_iplayer search 
because they are not in the data feeds.

> The search working for you is odd, when I put the URL in the Quick URL
> field (the default .* in Search, the default Name in "Search in" with
> only BBC TV ticked) I get the entire ~1300 programmes returned, as if
> I'd not set any search criteria.

Quick URL is for recording, not for searching.  Go back and look at the 
old thread you referenced in your original message: Click "Record" after 
entering the URL.



From geoff at alphaworks.co.uk  Sun Sep 14 14:56:28 2014
From: geoff at alphaworks.co.uk (Geoff Soper)
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:56:28 +0100
Subject: Can't find Horizon episode using PVR interface
In-Reply-To: <54160D56.70403@gmail.com>
References: <5415C062.8080008@alphaworks.co.uk> <5415D14E.1010801@gmail.com>
 <5415FFBA.1070504@alphaworks.co.uk> <54160D56.70403@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54160F0C.1040509@alphaworks.co.uk>

On 14/09/2014 22:49, dinkypumpkin wrote:
>
> Quick URL is for recording, not for searching.  Go back and look at 
> the old thread you referenced in your original message: Click "Record" 
> after entering the URL.
>

Ah, I don't feel so bad about not spotting that given that visually it's 
apparently part of the search criteria fields... We'll see if I remember 
that in a year's time when I next need that functionality!

Thanks again,
Geoff


From alan at soulman1949.com  Sun Sep 14 16:27:51 2014
From: alan at soulman1949.com (Alan Milewczyk)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 00:27:51 +0100
Subject: Problems downloading a programme
Message-ID: <54162477.4090500@soulman1949.com>

Using Win 7 64 bit

I do most of my downloading from batch files running from the command 
line. I've already downloaded successfully the first three programmes in 
the BBC 2 series "Tropic of Capricorn" but hit a problem with the latest 
programme in the series "Tropic of Capricorn - 4. Chile to Brazil" (Sat 
13th Sept at 16:05)

My download request results in the following:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\get_iplayer>get_iplayer --type=tv --tvmode=best 
--get "tropic of capricorn"
get_iplayer v2.86, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis
   This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details use 
--warranty.
   This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under 
certain
   conditions; use --conditions for details.

Matches:
1205:    Tropic of Capricorn - 4. Chile to Brazil, Audio Described, 
Audio Described,Factual,Lifestyle & Leisure,Sign Zone,TV,Travel, 
audiodescribed,signed

INFO: 1 Matching Programmes

WARNING: No programmes are available for this pid with version(s): 
default (available versions: audiodescribed,signed)"

I've tried downloading with
get_iplayer --type=tv --tvmode=best --get 1205
with the same results.

Using the URL 
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0094l8y/ad/tropic-of-capricorn-4-chile-to-brazil) 
I get:

"get_iplayer v2.86, Copyright (C) 2008-2010 Phil Lewis
   This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details use 
--warranty.
   This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under 
certain
   conditions; use --conditions for details.

INFO: Episode-only pid detected
INFO: Trying pid: b0094l8y using type: tv
INFO Trying to stream pid using type tv
INFO: pid found in cache
Matches:
1205:    Tropic of Capricorn - 4. Chile to Brazil, Audio Described, 
Audio Described,Factual,Lifestyle & Leisure,Sign Zone,TV,Travel, 
audiodescribed,signed

INFO: 1 Matching Programmes

WARNING: No programmes are available for this pid with version(s): 
default (available versions: audiodescribed,signed)"

Yet the programme downloads successfully using the BBC's own iPlayer.

I'm really stuck knowing what to do next.

Thanks

Alan


From dinkypumpkin at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 16:55:43 2014
From: dinkypumpkin at gmail.com (dinkypumpkin)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 00:55:43 +0100
Subject: Problems downloading a programme
In-Reply-To: <54162477.4090500@soulman1949.com>
References: <54162477.4090500@soulman1949.com>
Message-ID: <54162AFF.2000904@gmail.com>

On 15/09/2014 00:27, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
> WARNING: No programmes are available for this pid with version(s):
> default (available versions: audiodescribed,signed)"

get_iplayer is telling you what's wrong.  This programme is available 
only in audiodescribed or signed versions, which you have to request 
specifically using --versions.



From dinkypumpkin at gmail.com  Sun Sep 14 16:59:42 2014
From: dinkypumpkin at gmail.com (dinkypumpkin)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 00:59:42 +0100
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
Message-ID: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>

Is anyone else seeing bounce messages from copyright at kickass.to as a 
result of posts to this list?  It looks like some jackass subscribed 
that address to the list, but maybe it's just me that is affected.


From tony at tqvideo.co.uk  Sun Sep 14 23:39:09 2014
From: tony at tqvideo.co.uk (TQ)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:39:09 +0100 (BST)
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
In-Reply-To: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
References: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1505081400.169739.1410763149980.open-xchange@oxbaltgw14.schlund.de>

> On 15 September 2014 at 00:59 dinkypumpkin <dinkypumpkin at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Is anyone else seeing bounce messages from copyright at kickass.to as a
> result of posts to this list?? It looks like some jackass subscribed
> that address to the list, but maybe it's just me that is affected.

Nothing of that nature has showed up here

--
TQ via webmail


From shevek at shevek.co.uk  Sun Sep 14 23:58:26 2014
From: shevek at shevek.co.uk (Shevek)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:58:26 +0100
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
In-Reply-To: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
References: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANGN4UO7ywA59ggX+hkTqd8rn7_wi3mHefqPVp0VkdxwRJfraA@mail.gmail.com>

On 15 September 2014 00:59, dinkypumpkin <dinkypumpkin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is anyone else seeing bounce messages from copyright at kickass.to as a result
> of posts to this list?  It looks like some jackass subscribed that address
> to the list, but maybe it's just me that is affected.
>

I get them too...


From michaeltnorman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 00:10:17 2014
From: michaeltnorman at gmail.com (michael norman)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:10:17 +0100
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
In-Reply-To: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
References: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <541690D9.9030903@gmail.com>

On 15/09/14 00:59, dinkypumpkin wrote:
> Is anyone else seeing bounce messages from copyright at kickass.to as a
> result of posts to this list?  It looks like some jackass subscribed
> that address to the list, but maybe it's just me that is affected.
>
> _______________________________________________
> get_iplayer mailing list
> get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer

Don't see that here.


From shevek at shevek.co.uk  Mon Sep 15 00:20:24 2014
From: shevek at shevek.co.uk (Shevek)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:20:24 +0100
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
In-Reply-To: <CANGN4UO7ywA59ggX+hkTqd8rn7_wi3mHefqPVp0VkdxwRJfraA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
 <CANGN4UO7ywA59ggX+hkTqd8rn7_wi3mHefqPVp0VkdxwRJfraA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANGN4UMrMXn4kLLd0k1MOW1MAUxR2FkQitgzF5W4ZFcmEXu7Uw@mail.gmail.com>

On 15 September 2014 07:58, Shevek <shevek at shevek.co.uk> wrote:
> On 15 September 2014 00:59, dinkypumpkin <dinkypumpkin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is anyone else seeing bounce messages from copyright at kickass.to as a result
>> of posts to this list?  It looks like some jackass subscribed that address
>> to the list, but maybe it's just me that is affected.
>>
>
> I get them too...

Well, I did get one once last week, but not this time... Hopefully the
address has been removed now.


From alan at soulman1949.com  Mon Sep 15 00:26:19 2014
From: alan at soulman1949.com (Alan Milewczyk)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:26:19 +0100
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
In-Reply-To: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
References: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5416949B.8020006@soulman1949.com>

On 15/09/2014 00:59, dinkypumpkin wrote:
> Is anyone else seeing bounce messages from copyright at kickass.to as a 
> result of posts to this list?  It looks like some jackass subscribed 
> that address to the list, but maybe it's just me that is affected.
>
> _______________________________________________
> get_iplayer mailing list
> get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
>
>
Nothing here!


From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Mon Sep 15 00:26:33 2014
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 07:26:33 -0000
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
In-Reply-To: <CANGN4UMrMXn4kLLd0k1MOW1MAUxR2FkQitgzF5W4ZFcmEXu7Uw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
 <CANGN4UO7ywA59ggX+hkTqd8rn7_wi3mHefqPVp0VkdxwRJfraA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANGN4UMrMXn4kLLd0k1MOW1MAUxR2FkQitgzF5W4ZFcmEXu7Uw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c7dbbae6117d7a8886c07f8899a3123d.squirrel@twosheds.infradead.org>


> On 15 September 2014 07:58, Shevek <shevek at shevek.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 15 September 2014 00:59, dinkypumpkin <dinkypumpkin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Is anyone else seeing bounce messages from copyright at kickass.to as a
>>> result
>>> of posts to this list?  It looks like some jackass subscribed that
>>> address
>>> to the list, but maybe it's just me that is affected.
>>>
>>
>> I get them too...
>
> Well, I did get one once last week, but not this time... Hopefully the
> address has been removed now.


I've just done so.

-- 
dwmw2



From shevek at shevek.co.uk  Mon Sep 15 00:28:09 2014
From: shevek at shevek.co.uk (Shevek)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:28:09 +0100
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
In-Reply-To: <c7dbbae6117d7a8886c07f8899a3123d.squirrel@twosheds.infradead.org>
References: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
 <CANGN4UO7ywA59ggX+hkTqd8rn7_wi3mHefqPVp0VkdxwRJfraA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANGN4UMrMXn4kLLd0k1MOW1MAUxR2FkQitgzF5W4ZFcmEXu7Uw@mail.gmail.com>
 <c7dbbae6117d7a8886c07f8899a3123d.squirrel@twosheds.infradead.org>
Message-ID: <CANGN4UPgMedpskFuy-_MvOq2R0p26yhnU+t7LehcuR9bbMB_rg@mail.gmail.com>

On 15 September 2014 08:26, David Woodhouse <dwmw2 at infradead.org> wrote:
>
>> On 15 September 2014 07:58, Shevek <shevek at shevek.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 15 September 2014 00:59, dinkypumpkin <dinkypumpkin at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Is anyone else seeing bounce messages from copyright at kickass.to as a
>>>> result
>>>> of posts to this list?  It looks like some jackass subscribed that
>>>> address
>>>> to the list, but maybe it's just me that is affected.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I get them too...
>>
>> Well, I did get one once last week, but not this time... Hopefully the
>> address has been removed now.
>
>
> I've just done so.
>

Many thanks David


From mail at john-eason.co.uk  Mon Sep 15 00:44:00 2014
From: mail at john-eason.co.uk (J K.Eason)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:44 +0100 (BST)
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
In-Reply-To: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <memo.20140915084420.4924A@jeason.cix.co.uk>

 Yes! :^(

Regards
       John


From mail at john-eason.co.uk  Mon Sep 15 00:47:00 2014
From: mail at john-eason.co.uk (J K.Eason)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:47 +0100 (BST)
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
In-Reply-To: <5416949B.8020006@soulman1949.com>
Message-ID: <memo.20140915084724.4924B@jeason.cix.co.uk>

> *From:* Alan Milewczyk <alan at soulman1949.com>
> *To:* get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> *Date:* Mon, 15 Sep 2014 08:26:19 +0100
> 
> On 15/09/2014 00:59, dinkypumpkin wrote:
> > Is anyone else seeing bounce messages from copyright at kickass.to 
> > as a result of posts to this list?  It looks like some jackass 
> > subscribed that address to the list, but maybe it's just me that 
> > is affected.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > get_iplayer mailing list
> > get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
> > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
> >
> >
> Nothing here!

I think you had to post to the group before you actually received a
bounce, so hopefully it was only two or three of us who saw them.
 
Regards
       John


From dinkypumpkin at gmail.com  Mon Sep 15 01:12:16 2014
From: dinkypumpkin at gmail.com (dinkypumpkin)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 09:12:16 +0100
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
In-Reply-To: <CANGN4UPgMedpskFuy-_MvOq2R0p26yhnU+t7LehcuR9bbMB_rg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>	<CANGN4UO7ywA59ggX+hkTqd8rn7_wi3mHefqPVp0VkdxwRJfraA@mail.gmail.com>	<CANGN4UMrMXn4kLLd0k1MOW1MAUxR2FkQitgzF5W4ZFcmEXu7Uw@mail.gmail.com>	<c7dbbae6117d7a8886c07f8899a3123d.squirrel@twosheds.infradead.org>
 <CANGN4UPgMedpskFuy-_MvOq2R0p26yhnU+t7LehcuR9bbMB_rg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54169F60.1010205@gmail.com>

On 15/09/2014 08:28, Shevek wrote:
> On 15 September 2014 08:26, David Woodhouse <dwmw2 at infradead.org> wrote:
>>> On 15 September 2014 07:58, Shevek <shevek at shevek.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Well, I did get one once last week, but not this time... Hopefully the
>>> address has been removed now.
>>
>> I've just done so.
>
> Many thanks David

And from me.




From ajebay at errichel.co.uk  Mon Sep 15 10:28:15 2014
From: ajebay at errichel.co.uk (Budgie)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 18:28:15 +0100
Subject: Can't find Horizon episode using PVR interface
In-Reply-To: <54160F0C.1040509@alphaworks.co.uk>
References: <5415C062.8080008@alphaworks.co.uk> <5415D14E.1010801@gmail.com>
 <5415FFBA.1070504@alphaworks.co.uk> <54160D56.70403@gmail.com>
 <54160F0C.1040509@alphaworks.co.uk>
Message-ID: <541721AF.40106@errichel.co.uk>

On 14/09/14 22:56, Geoff Soper wrote:

Hi Geoff,
Seeing your post I thought I had better check.  I find that I have the 
programme and it had been downloaded by pvr on 28 August when it was in 
the list.  However the episode title on the downloaded file and still 
using the PID you quoted is 5 not 3 as indicated on the BBC web site. 
Just one of those little BBC errors I guess!
Alastair.


From roadcone at gmx.com  Mon Sep 15 11:51:15 2014
From: roadcone at gmx.com (roadcone)
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:51:15 +0100
Subject: Problems downloading a programme
In-Reply-To: <54162AFF.2000904@gmail.com>
References: <54162477.4090500@soulman1949.com> <54162AFF.2000904@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54173523.5020707@gmx.com>

On 15/09/14 00:55, dinkypumpkin wrote:
> On 15/09/2014 00:27, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
>> WARNING: No programmes are available for this pid with version(s):
>> default (available versions: audiodescribed,signed)"
>
> get_iplayer is telling you what's wrong.  This programme is available
> only in audiodescribed or signed versions, which you have to request
> specifically using --versions.
>
I've come across this problem where the program is a repeat (or a repeat 
of a repeat). Last week for me on a Melvyn Bragg history documentary.

Clive




From alan at soulman1949.com  Tue Sep 16 09:01:54 2014
From: alan at soulman1949.com (Alan Milewczyk)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 17:01:54 +0100
Subject: Problems downloading a programme
In-Reply-To: <54173523.5020707@gmx.com>
References: <54162477.4090500@soulman1949.com> <54162AFF.2000904@gmail.com>
 <54173523.5020707@gmx.com>
Message-ID: <54185EF2.7080904@soulman1949.com>

On 15/09/2014 19:51, roadcone wrote:
> On 15/09/14 00:55, dinkypumpkin wrote:
>> On 15/09/2014 00:27, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
>>> WARNING: No programmes are available for this pid with version(s):
>>> default (available versions: audiodescribed,signed)"
>>
>> get_iplayer is telling you what's wrong.  This programme is available
>> only in audiodescribed or signed versions, which you have to request
>> specifically using --versions.
>>
> I've come across this problem where the program is a repeat (or a 
> repeat of a repeat). Last week for me on a Melvyn Bragg history 
> documentary.
>
Yes I've seen lots of programmes which are repeated on BBC Two in the 
mornings that re signed. Odd thing is that this was not one of those 
repeats, although I haven't checked to see what the production date was, 
could be it's an old series already being repeated, but then the first 
three in the series downloaded normally. Maybe just a coding error.

Alan


From alan at soulman1949.com  Tue Sep 16 09:16:04 2014
From: alan at soulman1949.com (Alan Milewczyk)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 17:16:04 +0100
Subject: Problems downloading a programme
In-Reply-To: <54162AFF.2000904@gmail.com>
References: <54162477.4090500@soulman1949.com> <54162AFF.2000904@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54186244.1090803@soulman1949.com>

On 15/09/2014 00:55, dinkypumpkin wrote:
> On 15/09/2014 00:27, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
>> WARNING: No programmes are available for this pid with version(s):
>> default (available versions: audiodescribed,signed)"
>
> get_iplayer is telling you what's wrong.  This programme is available 
> only in audiodescribed or signed versions, which you have to request 
> specifically using --versions. English - detected 
Ah ok, thanks. I've never come across the versions switch before. Well, 
I eventually worked out how to use the switch (as I couldn't find it in 
the help guide) and downloaded both versions (out of curiosity).

Two queries, firstly the signed version wasn't signed at all. Secondly, 
none of the previous 3 programmes in the series were marked as 
audiodescribed/signed, so I'm puzzled why this one was, especially when 
it was a normal recording. Coding error?


From alan at soulman1949.com  Tue Sep 16 09:23:46 2014
From: alan at soulman1949.com (Alan Milewczyk)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 17:23:46 +0100
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
In-Reply-To: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
References: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54186412.6030004@soulman1949.com>

On 15/09/2014 00:59, dinkypumpkin wrote:
> Is anyone else seeing bounce messages from copyright at kickass.to as a 
> result of posts to this list?  It looks like some jackass subscribed 
> that address to the list, but maybe it's just me that is affected.
>
Hmmmm a spam response to my "problems downloading a programme" query 
sent direct to my e-mail inbox (not via the list). It's a torrent site 
e-mail address (kick ass torrents):


Greetings,

Your request has been reviewed, but cannot be processed due to one (or more) of the following reasons:
1) The Claim wasn't written in English language;
2) You provided no evidence showing that you are the copyright holder or that you are acting on behalf of the copyright holder;
3) You provided no evidence showing that the content is legally copyrighted;
4) There were more then 30 torrents mentioned in the Claim email.

Please, make sure to fulfill all the conditions mentioned above before sending a claim.
You can find more detailed information regarding the DMCA email layout via the following article -http://kickass.to/dmca/

Respectfully,
KAT team






From dinkypumpkin at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 09:25:30 2014
From: dinkypumpkin at gmail.com (dinkypumpkin)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 17:25:30 +0100
Subject: Problems downloading a programme
In-Reply-To: <54186244.1090803@soulman1949.com>
References: <54162477.4090500@soulman1949.com> <54162AFF.2000904@gmail.com>
 <54186244.1090803@soulman1949.com>
Message-ID: <5418647A.5060400@gmail.com>

On 16/09/2014 17:16, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
> Two queries, firstly the signed version wasn't signed at all. Secondly,
> none of the previous 3 programmes in the series were marked as
> audiodescribed/signed, so I'm puzzled why this one was, especially when
> it was a normal recording. Coding error?

Most likely - you wouldn't necessarily expect a signed version to go out 
on a Saturday afternoon.  I've seen this a few times before, and I think 
what happens is the iPlayer metadata points to an episode from the 
previous repeat of the series, which probably was a late-night signed 
version.  As in this case, you can sometimes download the signed 
version, which doesn't actually have signing.



From dinkypumpkin at gmail.com  Tue Sep 16 09:29:26 2014
From: dinkypumpkin at gmail.com (dinkypumpkin)
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 17:29:26 +0100
Subject: copyright@kickass.to bounces
In-Reply-To: <54186412.6030004@soulman1949.com>
References: <54162BEE.3000300@gmail.com> <54186412.6030004@soulman1949.com>
Message-ID: <54186566.7010906@gmail.com>

On 16/09/2014 17:23, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
> Hmmmm a spam response to my "problems downloading a programme" query
> sent direct to my e-mail inbox (not via the list). It's a torrent site
> e-mail address (kick ass torrents):

Unless the same jackass re-subscribed that address to the list, you 
shouldn't get any more of those.


From chrisjbrady at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 18 08:12:44 2014
From: chrisjbrady at yahoo.com (Chris J Brady)
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 08:12:44 -0700
Subject: BBC Archives ....
Message-ID: <1411053164.75391.YahooMailBasic@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Wonder if get_iplayer can handle these?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/programme/index.shtml

CJB


From northmedia1 at the.forthnet.gr  Thu Sep 18 21:02:25 2014
From: northmedia1 at the.forthnet.gr (Vangelis forthnet)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 07:02:25 +0300
Subject: BBC Archives ....
In-Reply-To: <1411053164.75391.YahooMailBasic@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8704AC78070E4C59A531019B52358BD0@vasonote>

On Thu Sep 18 16:12:44 BST 2014, Chris J Brady wrote:

> Wonder if get_iplayer can handle these?
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/programme/index.shtml

Greetings, Chris :-)

 I took as an example the first (video) entry in the list you linked to, 
i.e.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/gay_rights/12028.shtml

Load this page in Mozilla Firefox, go to
Tools -> Web Developer -> Web Console
and in the filter box in the mid right type "xml"
(without the quotes).
Delete Firefox's cache, reload the page and in the Console field
you'll get the "playlist URL" for the video in question;
place your cursor on this URL, right-click -> Copy link location;
the clipboard now has the URL you are after:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/xml/12/028.xml

These videos are older encodes (this one was first broadcast in 2002),
so they are not employing modern codecs; expect RealVideo/RealAudio
and/or Sorenson Spark (for video) / MP3 (for audio). These older codecs
are not compatible with the MP4 container, so one should use the --raw
switch to be on the safe side...If you don't use --raw, you won't get an 
.MP4
as the end video file but an .AVI one (which is significantly larger in size
compared to the FLV you'll get with --raw, due to increased muxing 
overhead...).
 I eventually downloaded the archived clip via this command:

get_iplayer --url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/xml/12/028.xml" --modes=best 
 --force -w --file-prefix="Gays Couples Given Similar Rights as Married 
Couples" --raw

INFO: Trying pid: http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/xml/12/028.xml using type: tv
INFO Trying to stream pid using type tv
INFO: pid not found in tv cache
INFO: Checking existence of default version
INFO: flashnormal1 modes will be tried for version default
INFO: Trying flashnormal1 mode to record tv:  -
INFO: File name prefix = Gays Couples Given Similar Rights as Married 
Couples

RTMPDump v2.4-78-g26c4637-4GB
(c) 2010 Andrej Stepanchuk, Howard Chu, The Flvstreamer Team; license: GPL
Connecting ...
INFO: Connected...
Starting download at: 0.000 kB
INFO: Metadata:
INFO:   duration              211.84
INFO:   width                 512.00
INFO:   height                288.00
INFO:   videodatarate         375.00
INFO:   canSeekToEnd          FALSE
INFO:   videocodecid          2.00
INFO:   audiodatarate         128.00
INFO:   audiocodecid          2.00
INFO:   framerate             25.00
INFO:   creationdate          Fri Jul 09 11:44:12 2010
13458.805 kB / 211.83 sec (99.9%)
Download complete

(NB: The majority of the archived content is geo-blocked for non-UK IPs,
so it won't playback in a browser / record with get_iplayer if  tried from
an overseas physical location - I had to temporarily circumvent this in 
order
to conduct this "academic" experiment; video deleted right after the 
download
finished ;-) )

Hope I've shown you the way to go!

Regards. 



From chrisjbrady at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 19 01:39:32 2014
From: chrisjbrady at yahoo.com (Chris J Brady)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:39:32 -0700
Subject: BBC Archives ....
In-Reply-To: <8704AC78070E4C59A531019B52358BD0@vasonote>
Message-ID: <1411115972.20037.YahooMailBasic@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Thank you for the hints and tips.

I used the Windows-basd PVR

Using the tips from Vangelis forthnet <northmedia1 at the.forthnet.gr> here is what I have found:

1/ go to the web page for the clip, e.g.:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/gay_rights/12028.shtml

2/ Viewsource then Find "xml" to locate the string: 

emp.setPlaylist("http://"+location.host+"/archive/xml/12/028.xml");

3/ the URL required is then

http://www.bbc.co.uk//archive/xml/12/028.xml

4/ Copy and paste this into Quick URL field

5/ Click Record

The result was a file in iPlayer Recordings as:

10_OClock_news_-_Gays_Couples_Given_Similar_Rights_as_Married_Couples_http_www.bbc.co.uk_archive_xml_12_028.xml_default.AVI

The file wasn't that large.

THIS WAS THEN DELETED - A SUBJECT I'M NOT THAT INTERESTED IN !!

====

i was not sure how to set --raw though

Chris B.

====

Log:

INFO: Trying pid: http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/xml/12/028.xml using type: tv
INFO Trying to stream pid using type tv
INFO: pid not found in tv cache
INFO: Checking existence of default version
INFO: flashnormal1 modes will be tried for version default
INFO: Trying flashnormal1 mode to record tv:  - 

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From northmedia1 at the.forthnet.gr  Fri Sep 19 12:37:44 2014
From: northmedia1 at the.forthnet.gr (Vangelis forthnet)
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 22:37:44 +0300
Subject: BBC Archives ....
In-Reply-To: <1411115972.20037.YahooMailBasic@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C815DE561084A57BACA5C321858C4F9@vasonote>

On Fri Sep 19 09:39:32 BST 2014, Chris J Brady wrote:

> The result was a file in iPlayer Recordings as:
>
> "10_OClock_news_-_Gays_Couples_Given_Similar_Rights_as_Married_Couples_http_www.bbc.co.uk_archive_xml_12_028.xml_default.AVI"

 This was the reason I used:

--file-prefix="Gays Couples Given Similar Rights as Married Couples"

in my CLI command, so as to save the file with a SHORTER file name;
I am on Windows and once you start moving things around into folders
and subfolders and so on, you never know when you'll hit the 256 characters
limit in the full path to file...

> The file wasn't that large.

The .avi flavour of the file was ~ 17.9 MB.
I have attached the MediaInfo report for it:

Video Stream size                      : 9.71 MiB (54%)
Audio Stream size                      : 3.23 MiB (18%)

The remainder 28% of the file size is just muxing overhead.
And do not be fooled by the .avi extension; the video portion
of this file won't be played back by a DVD player or other
hardware player, because the overwhelming majority of those
lack support for the Sorenson Spark (FLV1) video codec.

The .flv version of the file you get when you use --raw is just 13.1 MB;
MediaInfo report also attached; the same stream sizes, but only 3%
muxing overhead.

> I was not sure how to set --raw though

 IIANM, this is currently not possible directly through the GUI
of the Web PVR Manager. I am an exclusive user of the CLI,
so I do not miss this feature; might worth a consideration for a
future implementation for those GUI-only users of GiP.
You can always add via the CLI a "--raw" pref and the
Web PVR Manager will observe it when run...

Take care,
Vangelis. 
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From s_byers666 at yahoo.co.uk  Wed Sep 24 01:40:18 2014
From: s_byers666 at yahoo.co.uk (S Byers)
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:40:18 +0100
Subject: BBC Archives ....
In-Reply-To: <3C815DE561084A57BACA5C321858C4F9@vasonote>
Message-ID: <1411548018.42826.YahooMailBasic@web133001.mail.ir2.yahoo.com>

Again thank you. I see your point. I have never used CL but using your scripts it all seems to work OK. Now I have downloaded the archives I need - huh - about costume drama!!!

Thank you again - Chris B.
. 
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 19/9/14, Vangelis forthnet <northmedia1 at the.forthnet.gr> wrote:

 Subject: Re: BBC Archives ....
 To: get_iplayer at lists.infradead.org
 Date: Friday, 19 September, 2014, 20:37
 
 On Fri Sep 19 09:39:32 BST 2014,
 Chris J Brady wrote:
 
 > The result was a file in iPlayer Recordings as:
 >
 >
 "10_OClock_news_-_Gays_Couples_Given_Similar_Rights_as_Married_Couples_http_www.bbc.co.uk_archive_xml_12_028.xml_default.AVI"
 
  This was the reason I used:
 
 --file-prefix="Gays Couples Given Similar Rights as Married
 Couples"
 
 in my CLI command, so as to save the file with a SHORTER
 file name;
 I am on Windows and once you start moving things around into
 folders
 and subfolders and so on, you never know when you'll hit the
 256 characters
 limit in the full path to file...
 
 > The file wasn't that large.
 
 The .avi flavour of the file was ~ 17.9 MB.
 I have attached the MediaInfo report for it:
 
 Video Stream size? ? ? ? ? ?
 ? ? ? ? ? : 9.71 MiB (54%)
 Audio Stream size? ? ? ? ? ?
 ? ? ? ? ? : 3.23 MiB (18%)
 
 The remainder 28% of the file size is just muxing overhead.
 And do not be fooled by the .avi extension; the video
 portion
 of this file won't be played back by a DVD player or other
 hardware player, because the overwhelming majority of those
 lack support for the Sorenson Spark (FLV1) video codec.
 
 The .flv version of the file you get when you use --raw is
 just 13.1 MB;
 MediaInfo report also attached; the same stream sizes, but
 only 3%
 muxing overhead.
 
 > I was not sure how to set --raw though
 
  IIANM, this is currently not possible directly through the
 GUI
 of the Web PVR Manager. I am an exclusive user of the CLI,
 so I do not miss this feature; might worth a consideration
 for a
 future implementation for those GUI-only users of GiP.
 You can always add via the CLI a "--raw" pref and the
 Web PVR Manager will observe it when run...
 
 Take care,
 Vangelis. 
 
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From paul at the-hug.org  Thu Sep 25 02:03:02 2014
From: paul at the-hug.org (Paul Oldham)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:03:02 +0100
Subject: Google Chromecast compatible MP4s
Message-ID: <5423DA46.5000201@the-hug.org>

I recently got a Chromecast and I'm using rygel[1] as a UPnP AV 
MediaServer controlled by BubbleUPNP[2] to server videos stored on my 
file server to my Chromecast. So far so good: it works a treat with 
content like VOBs off DVDs converted to MP4 with the aid of ffmpeg.

However is doesn't play MP4s straight out of get_iplayer (just using 
--get, no other flags). I've discovered I can fix this by using ffmpeg 
to re-encode but I was wondering if anyone had been this way before and 
was aware of a switch I could give to get_iplayer to make it produce 
MP4s which were Chromecast compatible straight of the box.

TIA
-- 
Paul

[1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Rygel
[2] 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bubblesoft.android.bubbleupnp


From dinkypumpkin at gmail.com  Thu Sep 25 10:39:02 2014
From: dinkypumpkin at gmail.com (dinkypumpkin)
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:39:02 +0100
Subject: Google Chromecast compatible MP4s
In-Reply-To: <5423DA46.5000201@the-hug.org>
References: <5423DA46.5000201@the-hug.org>
Message-ID: <54245336.5060600@gmail.com>

On 25/09/2014 10:03, Paul Oldham wrote:
> I recently got a Chromecast and I'm using rygel[1] as a UPnP AV
> MediaServer controlled by BubbleUPNP[2] to server videos stored on my
> file server to my Chromecast. So far so good: it works a treat with
> content like VOBs off DVDs converted to MP4 with the aid of ffmpeg.
>
> However is doesn't play MP4s straight out of get_iplayer (just using
> --get, no other flags). I've discovered I can fix this by using ffmpeg
> to re-encode but I was wondering if anyone had been this way before and
> was aware of a switch I could give to get_iplayer to make it produce
> MP4s which were Chromecast compatible straight of the box.
>
> TIA

You don't say what distro you're using, whether you're using using 
original ffmpeg or the version provided until recently with libav, or 
the version of ffmpeg/avconv you have.  Your problem might be solved 
simply by using an recent version of the original ffmpeg. Libav hasn't 
kept up with all ffmpeg changes to muxers.

I know zip about Rygel or Chromecast, but if you are already using a 
recent version of ffmpeg, there are a couple of other things you might try:

1. Add --ffmpeg-tv-opts="-movflags rtphint" to your get_iplayer command. 
  Hinting might help with streaming to your device, but that's only a guess.

2. Re-mux the mp4 files with mp4box instead of re-encoding.  You'll lose 
the metadata, but assembling the streams in a fresh container might be a 
quicker way to get a working file.  Again, only a guess.


From paul at the-hug.org  Mon Sep 29 05:57:48 2014
From: paul at the-hug.org (Paul Oldham)
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 13:57:48 +0100
Subject: Google Chromecast compatible MP4s
In-Reply-To: <54245336.5060600@gmail.com>
References: <5423DA46.5000201@the-hug.org> <54245336.5060600@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5429574C.60202@the-hug.org>

On 25/09/14 18:39, dinkypumpkin wrote:

> On 25/09/2014 10:03, Paul Oldham wrote:
>> I recently got a Chromecast and I'm using rygel[1] as a UPnP AV
>> MediaServer controlled by BubbleUPNP[2] to server videos stored on my
>> file server to my Chromecast. So far so good: it works a treat with
>> content like VOBs off DVDs converted to MP4 with the aid of ffmpeg.
>>
>> However is doesn't play MP4s straight out of get_iplayer (just using
>> --get, no other flags). I've discovered I can fix this by using ffmpeg
>> to re-encode but I was wondering if anyone had been this way before and
>> was aware of a switch I could give to get_iplayer to make it produce
>> MP4s which were Chromecast compatible straight of the box.
>
> You don't say what distro you're using, whether you're using using
> original ffmpeg or the version provided until recently with libav, or
> the version of ffmpeg/avconv you have.  Your problem might be solved
> simply by using an recent version of the original ffmpeg. Libav hasn't
> kept up with all ffmpeg changes to muxers.

Ah yes, the joys of ffpeg versions ...

I'm currently running Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS and hence I'm on ffmpeg 
0.10.9-7:0.10.9-1~precise1 (which I see is quite an old build now, and 
indeed when I was on 10.04 I ended up rolling my own).

> I know zip about Rygel or Chromecast, but if you are already using a
> recent version of ffmpeg, there are a couple of other things you might try:
>
> 1. Add --ffmpeg-tv-opts="-movflags rtphint" to your get_iplayer command.
>    Hinting might help with streaming to your device, but that's only a guess.
>
> 2. Re-mux the mp4 files with mp4box instead of re-encoding.  You'll lose
> the metadata, but assembling the streams in a fresh container might be a
> quicker way to get a working file.  Again, only a guess.

OK. I'll give those two a go and see how I get on. Thanks for the ideas 
anyway.
-- 
Paul


From hennessey.rogers at googlemail.com  Tue Sep 30 15:26:07 2014
From: hennessey.rogers at googlemail.com (hennessey rogers)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 23:26:07 +0100
Subject: podcast listings missing a digit
Message-ID: <20140930232607.e80456064e67b454817d5f5a@gmail.com>

Hi,
   I'm trying to get get_iplayer working on puppy linux. I've installed libwww and rtmpdump. I can list and download tv and radio programs showing that its basically working.But when I list podcasts I only get an index with five digits like this:-

under windows get_iplayer.pl podcast listing

  200005:	r41913: Welcome, Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:00:00 +0100, BBC
  206920:	DIDA: John Cleese, Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:15:00 +0000, BBC 

under puppy linux get_iplayer podcast listing

  20005:	r41913: Welcome, Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:00:00 +0100, BBC   
  26994:	DIDA: John Cleese, Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:15:00 +0000, BBC 

I've tried several different versions of puppy linux but all show this problem. Any idea what might be causing the problem?   

Thanks.

-- 
hennessey rogers <hennessey.rogers at gmail.com>


From dinkypumpkin at gmail.com  Tue Sep 30 16:06:39 2014
From: dinkypumpkin at gmail.com (dinkypumpkin)
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 00:06:39 +0100
Subject: podcast listings missing a digit
In-Reply-To: <20140930232607.e80456064e67b454817d5f5a@gmail.com>
References: <20140930232607.e80456064e67b454817d5f5a@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <542B377F.3010700@gmail.com>

On 30/09/2014 23:26, hennessey rogers wrote:
> Hi,
>     I'm trying to get get_iplayer working on puppy linux. I've installed libwww and rtmpdump. I can list and download tv and radio programs showing that its basically working.But when I list podcasts I only get an index with five digits like this:-
>
> under windows get_iplayer.pl podcast listing
>
>    200005:	r41913: Welcome, Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:00:00 +0100, BBC
>    206920:	DIDA: John Cleese, Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:15:00 +0000, BBC
>
> under puppy linux get_iplayer podcast listing
>
>    20005:	r41913: Welcome, Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:00:00 +0100, BBC
>    26994:	DIDA: John Cleese, Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:15:00 +0000, BBC
>
> I've tried several different versions of puppy linux but all show this problem. Any idea what might be causing the problem?
>
> Thanks.
>

You have an obsolete version of get_iplayer.  The podcast index range 
was changed over 2 years ago with version 2.82 (now at version 2.86).


