New Website

[YellowYeti]

I'd agree with the point about the logo, even though it's been around a 
long time, it feels like the kind of thing that the BBC could get shirty 
about - especially on a web page that looks professional ( In the sense 
of looking good, rather than looking like it's asking for money!) 
Unfortunately my artistic skills are rather limited.

For the rest of it, I'd say you address these points pretty well in the 
FAQ - i.e. that get_iplayer has /the same/ geographical limitations as 
the BBC site, and that it does not circumvent DRM.

I think you should stamp on any discussions in the forums that attempt 
to talk about subverting the limitations that the BBC imposes, make it 
clear that it's a 'helper application' for their existing website, 
rather than anything subversive.

Something in the FAQ that re-iterates the message you posted here, and a 
prominent message in the forums ( and some policing ) perhaps?

And after all that - lovely web page, should be really useful.


On 17/07/2013 09:22, Square Penguin wrote:
> I appreciate that you are able to recognise the emotional nature of 
> your reaction.
>
> Logo: I may need to make this point again - I didn't make the logo. 
> It's from Phil Lewis' original site. It's still there now if you want 
> to take a look. As I said, if someone provides a new one I'd be 
> willing to use it, but is that going to be the concern of the BBC? It 
> seems that the underlying point is that many here believe their use of 
> get_iplayer to be illicit and it is much more logical and important to 
> take steps to address that fact first.
>
> Popularity/Visibility: I am sorry to break the news to people here but 
> get_iplayer is popular and visible. This mailing list is visible and 
> easy to find, new users find it almost everyday and countless numbers 
> find and use the programme every day too. No doubt the BBC is very 
> well aware of get_iplayer hitting its servers and has a clear idea of 
> how large it is. The 'visibility' ship has sailed.
>
> The implied sentiment (one you are not necessarily making but others 
> are) that new users should be discouraged so that the old timers can 
> continue to enjoy the spoils is, frankly, repellent. get_iplayer is a 
> free (in all senses) and open source tool created for everyone to use. 
> Respecting that, and the BBC's usage terms, is at the core of its use.
>
> I accept that people react to change, most can't accept it. I will NOT 
> accept that new users should be discouraged and get_iplayer hidden 
> away. That is a fundamental point of principle that goes to the heart 
> of open source software and my position on that is immovable.
>
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