From leam at reuel.net  Sat Apr  2 09:45:17 2005
From: leam at reuel.net (leam@reuel.net)
Date: Sat Apr  2 20:23:38 2005
Subject: Newbie alert!
Message-ID: <20050402144517.GJ2920@leitz>

I'm in a spot and could use your help.

This Thursday I'll have a chance to demo a website package to a client. The demo I plan is Apache/MySQL/PHP based and will just be a dummy site run on a laptop.

Today, Saturday, I have no laptop. :P

My options seem to be:
	1. Try to get the software working on my wifes Mac OS X machine.
	2. Get an X86 based laptop from Compusa (Comapq/HP/Sony) and put Red Hat on it.
	3. Blow off the Demo.
	4. Get a Mac and try to get Fedora PPC to run on it.

1. Has been holding me up for a week. I'm not a programmer by trade and this is a side job so most of my time goes to my day job.
2. Lesser hardware quality for a premium price, or so it seems.
3. Would rather make a sale, it seems to help business.  :)
4. And here I am seeking knowledge...

Can I run Fedora PPC on a Mac laptop? http://www.bytebot.net/geekdocs/ibook/fedorappc.html says yes, but with some caveats. My needs are:

	GUI (Gnome or KDE)
	Web broswer
	MySQL, recent stable
	PHP, 4.3.x 
	Apache 1.3.x
	C compiler since the above may need some re-configuring.
	10/100 wired
	wireless
	Modem

The last two don't need to be done by Thursday, but would be nice. Does Fedora PPC support the list mostly out of the box? If not, what tweaks need to be made?

Your wisdom is much desired...

ciao!

leam


From mpeters at mac.com  Sat Apr  2 20:59:26 2005
From: mpeters at mac.com (Michael A. Peters)
Date: Sat Apr  2 20:59:31 2005
Subject: Newbie alert!
In-Reply-To: <20050402144517.GJ2920@leitz> (from leam@reuel.net on Sat Apr 2
	06:45:17 2005)
References: <20050402144517.GJ2920@leitz>
Message-ID: <1112493566l.7253l.0l@devel.mpeters.local>


On 04/02/2005 06:45:17 AM, leam@reuel.net wrote:
> I'm in a spot and could use your help.
> 
> This Thursday I'll have a chance to demo a website package to a
> client. The demo I plan is Apache/MySQL/PHP based and will just be a
> dummy site run on a laptop.
> 
> Today, Saturday, I have no laptop. :P
> 
> My options seem to be:
> 	1. Try to get the software working on my wifes Mac OS X
> machine.
> 	2. Get an X86 based laptop from Compusa (Comapq/HP/Sony) and
> put Red Hat on it.
> 	3. Blow off the Demo.
> 	4. Get a Mac and try to get Fedora PPC to run on it.
> 
> 1. Has been holding me up for a week. I'm not a programmer by trade
> and this is a side job so most of my time goes to my day job.

If you can not get it working on OS X, what makes you think getting it  
working on Linux will be easier? If what you need is a basic LAMP  
(Linux Apache MySQL PHP) then substituting OS X for Linux should just  
work in most cases - if you don't know why it isn't working on OS X  
then there is a good chance you won't get it to work on Red Hat /  
Fedora. Sorry to be blundt - but it's not a programming thing, it's a  
setup/sysadmin thing.


> 2. Lesser hardware quality for a premium price, or so it seems.

Lesser hardware if you mean only has one mouse button :p
My Thinkpad has 3 mouse buttons :D

> 3. Would rather make a sale, it seems to help business.  :)

Yes - Apple Laptops can help make a sale because they look classy.
There are also classy looking PC laptops.

> 4. And here I am seeking knowledge...
> 
> Can I run Fedora PPC on a Mac laptop?

Yes - but how smooth/easy install is may depend upon the model.

> http://www.bytebot.net/geekdocs/ibook/fedorappc.html says yes, but
> with some caveats. My needs are:
> 
> 	GUI (Gnome or KDE)

Works fine.

> 	Web broswer

Works fine (Mozilla and friends, Konq, etc.)

> 	MySQL, recent stable

Works fine. But also does in OS X

> 	PHP, 4.3.x

Works fine. But also does in OS X

> 	Apache 1.3.x

Works fine. But also does in OS X

> 	C compiler since the above may need some re-configuring.

Works fine. But you should not need a C compiler to "re-configure"  
unless you need some obscure apache or php module.

> 	10/100 wired

Works fine. Also does in OS X

> 	wireless

Works better in OS X. A lot of wireless cards will only work in Linux  
using NDISWrapper, which requires an x86 cpu. If wireless is a need, go  
with OS X on PPC for the time, or Linux on x86.

> 	Modem

I have no clue, other than it should work in OS X :p

-- 
Michael A. Peters
http://mpeters.us/



From leam at reuel.net  Sat Apr  2 23:03:55 2005
From: leam at reuel.net (leam@reuel.net)
Date: Sat Apr  2 23:02:54 2005
Subject: Newbie alert!
In-Reply-To: <1112493566l.7253l.0l@devel.mpeters.local>
References: <20050402144517.GJ2920@leitz>
	<1112493566l.7253l.0l@devel.mpeters.local>
Message-ID: <20050403040355.GW2920@leitz>

Michael;

Well, a blunt answer that saves me money is a good answer.  ;)

I have no idea how to build and undo packages on Mac OSX, I do on Linux. Thus my higher level of confidence in building it on Linux.If nothing else I could just take the configurations I have for sites that work in dulpicate them. My Mac book has generally been unhelpful in simple things like how to set up NFS, I doubt it would score higher on this.

The hardware "classier" issue is that I have an Apple store in town, and CompUsa sells them as well. THe x86 laptops they sell don't quite make the "classy grade, for me.

Well, at this point I've built the sites on an external web-host and my plan is to demo to them with a dial-up connection. I'm still also working on the Mac OS issue but my hopes aren't high.

ciao!

leam


On Sun, Apr 03, 2005 at 01:59:26AM +0000, Michael A. Peters wrote:
> 
> On 04/02/2005 06:45:17 AM, leam@reuel.net wrote:
> >I'm in a spot and could use your help.
> >
> >This Thursday I'll have a chance to demo a website package to a
> >client. The demo I plan is Apache/MySQL/PHP based and will just be a
> >dummy site run on a laptop.
> >
> >Today, Saturday, I have no laptop. :P
> >
> >My options seem to be:
> >	1. Try to get the software working on my wifes Mac OS X
> >machine.
> >	2. Get an X86 based laptop from Compusa (Comapq/HP/Sony) and
> >put Red Hat on it.
> >	3. Blow off the Demo.
> >	4. Get a Mac and try to get Fedora PPC to run on it.
> >
> >1. Has been holding me up for a week. I'm not a programmer by trade
> >and this is a side job so most of my time goes to my day job.
> 
> If you can not get it working on OS X, what makes you think getting it  
> working on Linux will be easier? If what you need is a basic LAMP  
> (Linux Apache MySQL PHP) then substituting OS X for Linux should just  
> work in most cases - if you don't know why it isn't working on OS X  
> then there is a good chance you won't get it to work on Red Hat /  
> Fedora. Sorry to be blundt - but it's not a programming thing, it's a  
> setup/sysadmin thing.

From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Sun Apr  3 08:58:10 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Sun Apr  3 08:58:26 2005
Subject: Newbie alert!
In-Reply-To: <20050402144517.GJ2920@leitz>
References: <20050402144517.GJ2920@leitz>
Message-ID: <1112533092.3899.219.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, 2005-04-02 at 09:45 -0500, leam@reuel.net wrote:
>         GUI (Gnome or KDE)
>         Web broswer
>         MySQL, recent stable
>         PHP, 4.3.x 
>         Apache 1.3.x
>         C compiler since the above may need some re-configuring.
>         10/100 wired

If you're capable of setting up the above on Fedora on i386, doing it on
PPC will be fine.

>         wireless

Depends on the laptop. The Airport will work; the Airport Extreme will
not. The internal Bluetooth works fine, although of course it's limited
to 1Mb/s. When I need more bandwidth than that, I use a CardBus 802.11g
card.

>         Modem

There are some binary-only drivers for the Conexant modem, I believe. I
haven't investigated. Again, Bluetooth just works -- I use it from the
PowerBook with both GSM and real modems.

-- 
dwmw2


From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Fri Apr  8 00:17:03 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (P Cieslar)
Date: Fri Apr  8 00:12:16 2005
Subject: Problems booting FC3 on G3 iBook after NFS Install
Message-ID: <425605BF.30006@cwgsy.net>

Hello.

I have installed FC3 via NFS on a G3 ibook, which i intend to dual boot 
with OSX.  I partitioned the drive, OSX boots fine.  I also have an 
Apple BootStrap partition, an ext3 partition and a swap partition.

I used "linux text" to begin the installation, 25 minutes later I got a 
prompt to reboot.  I rebooted, OSX booted.  I used the boot disc to take 
me back to anaconda, then switched to shell.

After typing "parted /dev/hda print" i received the following results:
--

Using /dev/hda
(parted) print
Disk geometry for /dev/hda: 0.000-28615.781 megabytes
Disk label type: mac
Minor    Start       End     Filesystem  Name                  Flags
1          0.000      0.031              Apple
2          0.031      0.058              Macintosh
3          0.059      0.085              Macintosh
4          0.086      0.113              Macintosh
5          0.113      0.140              Macintosh
6          0.141      0.390              Macintosh
7          0.391      0.640              Macintosh
8          0.641      0.890              Patch Partition
12         0.891      1.890  hfs         untitled              boot
10       128.891   20480.890  hfs         Apple_HFS_Untitled_3
9       20480.891  28180.890  ext3        untitled
11     28180.891  28614.890  linux-swap  swap                  swap
--

I follow this with the command "yabootconfig -r //dev/hda9/ -b //dev/hda12/ --kernel /boot/vmlinuz-* --initrd /boot/initrd-*" 
which results in the error:
--
id: unknown group name: 0
/mnt/sysimage/sbin/yabootconfig: line 455: [: !=: unary operator expected
yabootconfig: / does not appear to be a valid root filesystem
--

I then try:
--
# chroot /mnt/sysimage
# /sbin/yabootconfig -r /dev/hda9 -b /dev/hda12 --kernel /boot/vmlinuz-* 
--initrd /boot/initrd-*
--
which completes successfully, but system still boots into OSX.

I load the boot disc again, go to a prompt.
--
# mount /dev/hda9 /mnt/sysimage
# chroot /mnt/sysimage
# cat /etc/yaboot.conf
boot=/dev/hda12
device=pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/ata-4@1f000/disk@o:
init-message=Welcome to Fedora Core\!
Hit <TAB> for boot options.

partition=9
timeout=30
install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot
magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot
default=Linux
defaultos=linux

image=//boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-1.667
             label=Linux
             root=/dev/hda9
             read-only
             initrd=//boot/initrd-2.6.9-1.667.img
--

Any help appreciated.

Paul C

From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Fri Apr  8 02:06:15 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Fri Apr  8 02:06:33 2005
Subject: Problems booting FC3 on G3 iBook after NFS Install
In-Reply-To: <425605BF.30006@cwgsy.net>
References: <425605BF.30006@cwgsy.net>
Message-ID: <1112940376.5714.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 05:17 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
> image=//boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-1.667
>              label=Linux
>              root=/dev/hda9
>              read-only
>              initrd=//boot/initrd-2.6.9-1.667.img

Replace '//boot' with '/boot' in both instances and re-run ybin. Then
check that Open Firmware's 'boot-device' variable is correctly getting
set (to something like 'hd:12,\\:tbxi'). Try booting from OF by holding
Alt-Option-O-F while powering on, and typing 'boot hd:12,\\:tbxi'

-- 
dwmw2


From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Fri Apr  8 07:13:47 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (P Cieslar)
Date: Fri Apr  8 07:08:56 2005
Subject: Problems booting FC3 on G3 iBook after NFS Install
In-Reply-To: <1112940376.5714.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <425605BF.30006@cwgsy.net>
	<1112940376.5714.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4256676B.4020009@cwgsy.net>

David Woodhouse wrote:

>On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 05:17 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
>  
>
>>image=//boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-1.667
>>             label=Linux
>>             root=/dev/hda9
>>             read-only
>>             initrd=//boot/initrd-2.6.9-1.667.img
>>    
>>
>
>Replace '//boot' with '/boot' in both instances and re-run ybin. Then
>check that Open Firmware's 'boot-device' variable is correctly getting
>set (to something like 'hd:12,\\:tbxi'). Try booting from OF by holding
>Alt-Option-O-F while powering on, and typing 'boot hd:12,\\:tbxi'
>
>  
>
Thanks David.  I updated the yaboot.conf file.

I tried OF, the result was:
--
Welcome
Welcome to yaboot version 1.3.12
Enter "help" to get some basic usage information
boot:Linux
Please wait, loading kernel...
/pci@f2000000/mac-io@17/ata-4@1f000/disk@0:9,//boot/vmlinuz-2.6.9-1.667: 
No such file or directory
--
I notice there is a '//boot' in there, but there is not one in yaboot.conf.

any other ideas?

Thanks.

Paul C

From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Fri Apr  8 07:21:53 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Fri Apr  8 07:21:59 2005
Subject: Problems booting FC3 on G3 iBook after NFS Install
In-Reply-To: <4256676B.4020009@cwgsy.net>
References: <425605BF.30006@cwgsy.net>
	<1112940376.5714.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4256676B.4020009@cwgsy.net>
Message-ID: <1112959314.24487.471.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>

On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 12:13 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
> I notice there is a '//boot' in there, but there is not one in
> yaboot.conf.

You didn't run ybin after editing /etc/yaboot.conf, did you?

-- 
dwmw2


From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Fri Apr  8 07:46:19 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (P Cieslar)
Date: Fri Apr  8 07:41:28 2005
Subject: Problems booting FC3 on G3 iBook after NFS Install
In-Reply-To: <1112959314.24487.471.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
References: <425605BF.30006@cwgsy.net>	
	<1112940376.5714.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>	
	<4256676B.4020009@cwgsy.net>
	<1112959314.24487.471.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <42566F0B.4040604@cwgsy.net>

  David Woodhouse wrote:

>On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 12:13 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
>  
>
>>I notice there is a '//boot' in there, but there is not one in
>>yaboot.conf.
>>    
>>
>
>You didn't run ybin after editing /etc/yaboot.conf, did you?
>
>  
>
Sorry, I didn't.  i am not familiar with ybin, when I tried to run I 
simply get "SH: ybin: command not found"


From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Fri Apr  8 07:42:04 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Fri Apr  8 07:58:25 2005
Subject: Problems booting FC3 on G3 iBook after NFS Install
In-Reply-To: <42566F0B.4040604@cwgsy.net>
References: <425605BF.30006@cwgsy.net>
	<1112940376.5714.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4256676B.4020009@cwgsy.net>
	<1112959314.24487.471.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
	<42566F0B.4040604@cwgsy.net>
Message-ID: <1112960524.24487.475.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>

On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 12:46 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
> Sorry, I didn't.  i am not familiar with ybin, when I tried to run I 
> simply get "SH: ybin: command not found"

/sbin/ybin

-- 
dwmw2


From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Fri Apr  8 08:10:48 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (P Cieslar)
Date: Fri Apr  8 08:05:56 2005
Subject: Problems booting FC3 on G3 iBook after NFS Install
In-Reply-To: <1112960524.24487.475.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
References: <425605BF.30006@cwgsy.net>	
	<1112940376.5714.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>	
	<4256676B.4020009@cwgsy.net>	
	<1112959314.24487.471.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>	
	<42566F0B.4040604@cwgsy.net>
	<1112960524.24487.475.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <425674C8.2090107@cwgsy.net>

David Woodhouse wrote:

>On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 12:46 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
>  
>
>>Sorry, I didn't.  i am not familiar with ybin, when I tried to run I 
>>simply get "SH: ybin: command not found"
>>    
>>
>
>/sbin/ybin
>
>  
>
When I try this, I get:
--
sh-3.00# /sbin/ybin
ybin: /dev/hda12: No such file or directory
ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated.
--

I mounted proc and tried again, this time getting:
--
ybin: /dev/hda12: No such file or directory
ybin: /dev/nvram: No such file or directory
ybin: Warning: nvram will not be updated
--
Am not sure if I have to mount hda12, if I do where do i mount the 
bootstrap partition to?

thanks again.

Paul C


From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Fri Apr  8 08:08:58 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Fri Apr  8 08:09:02 2005
Subject: Problems booting FC3 on G3 iBook after NFS Install
In-Reply-To: <425674C8.2090107@cwgsy.net>
References: <425605BF.30006@cwgsy.net>
	<1112940376.5714.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4256676B.4020009@cwgsy.net>
	<1112959314.24487.471.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
	<42566F0B.4040604@cwgsy.net>
	<1112960524.24487.475.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
	<425674C8.2090107@cwgsy.net>
Message-ID: <1112962138.17350.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>

On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 13:10 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
> 
> sh-3.00# /sbin/ybin
> ybin: /dev/hda12: No such file or directory
> ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated.

Is this after you booted into rescue mode? You should be chrooted into
the installed system, and /dev and /proc should be there. If not, use
mknod to create appropriate device nodes for /dev/hda12 and /dev/nvram

-- 
dwmw2


From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Fri Apr  8 08:36:06 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (P Cieslar)
Date: Fri Apr  8 08:31:16 2005
Subject: Problems booting FC3 on G3 iBook after NFS Install
In-Reply-To: <1112962138.17350.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
References: <425605BF.30006@cwgsy.net>	
	<1112940376.5714.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>	
	<4256676B.4020009@cwgsy.net>	
	<1112959314.24487.471.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>	
	<42566F0B.4040604@cwgsy.net>	
	<1112960524.24487.475.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>	
	<425674C8.2090107@cwgsy.net>
	<1112962138.17350.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
Message-ID: <42567AB6.50402@cwgsy.net>

David Woodhouse wrote:

>On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 13:10 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
>  
>
>>sh-3.00# /sbin/ybin
>>ybin: /dev/hda12: No such file or directory
>>ybin: /proc filesystem is not mounted, nvram will not be updated.
>>    
>>
>
>Is this after you booted into rescue mode? You should be chrooted into
>the installed system, and /dev and /proc should be there. If not, use
>mknod to create appropriate device nodes for /dev/hda12 and /dev/nvram
>
>  
>
I managed to run ybin successfully, booted into fedora through OF.

Last remaining problem is getting gnome desktop to open, am left at a 
command prompt.

thanks.

From byte at aeon.com.my  Fri Apr  8 08:59:37 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Fri Apr  8 09:00:23 2005
Subject: Problems booting FC3 on G3 iBook after NFS Install
In-Reply-To: <42567AB6.50402@cwgsy.net>
References: <425605BF.30006@cwgsy.net>
	<1112940376.5714.14.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4256676B.4020009@cwgsy.net>
	<1112959314.24487.471.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
	<42566F0B.4040604@cwgsy.net>
	<1112960524.24487.475.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
	<425674C8.2090107@cwgsy.net>
	<1112962138.17350.4.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
	<42567AB6.50402@cwgsy.net>
Message-ID: <1112965177.18379.332.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 13:36 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:

> Last remaining problem is getting gnome desktop to open, am left at a 
> command prompt.

Is that because X doesn't work yet? Run Xautoconfig (get it off my site)
and it should generate a usable X config that you can use
-- 
Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi


From steelvalor at gmail.com  Fri Apr  8 14:41:54 2005
From: steelvalor at gmail.com (Steel Valor)
Date: Fri Apr  8 14:41:55 2005
Subject: iMac wont boot from cd
Message-ID: <c58c188a05040811416ac53f68@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

 I'm trying to get fedora ppc installed on my aged slot loading iMac.
It wont boot from CD 1 by default or by a firmware boot. I did burn
the boot.iso and it sorta boots from that but can't find the install
script.

1) Is it worth waiting for since I have Yellow Dog 4 on this machine already
2) If so, what am I missing?
3) I'll never go back to OS 9 and the machine isn't powerfull enough for OS X.

[SteelValor]

From rayccnthu at gmail.com  Fri Apr  8 21:49:08 2005
From: rayccnthu at gmail.com (Ray Chen)
Date: Fri Apr  8 21:49:11 2005
Subject: FC3 hangs on ibook G4
Message-ID: <33462c0e0504081849492288f4@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I have an ibook G4 with 768 mb memory and 80GB HDD. I splited the HDD
into two major partitions, first for Mac OS X and second for Linux. 
Basiclly , the FC3 (dev/test) CD-1 are not bootable, so that I try
burning the boot.iso for FTP installation. During the entire process
of installations, everything is fine. The yabootconfig and ybin jobs
are also not missing to make the system dually bootable. However, when
restarting the FC3, it hangs on the step of "selinux" and shows
something like that,
Warming: no console .....
selinux: diable on runtime
selinux: registering netfilter hook.

Consequently, I saw the indicator (near the touchpad) flashing a
little bit and then the system freezed. To fix this problem, I have
tried different ways to install. For example, enable/disable firewalls
and selinux, and replace the kernel by interrupting the installation
and mounting the installed system . The system still hangs regardless
what I'm trying to do. Does anyone have same experience? Please help,
Thank you.


Ray

From jkeating at j2solutions.net  Fri Apr  8 22:23:05 2005
From: jkeating at j2solutions.net (Jesse Keating)
Date: Fri Apr  8 22:28:17 2005
Subject: FC3 hangs on ibook G4
In-Reply-To: <33462c0e0504081849492288f4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <33462c0e0504081849492288f4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1113013385.11363.2.camel@jkeating2.hq.pogolinux.com>

On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 09:49 +0800, Ray Chen wrote:
> Consequently, I saw the indicator (near the touchpad) flashing a
> little bit and then the system freezed. To fix this problem, I have
> tried different ways to install. For example, enable/disable firewalls
> and selinux, and replace the kernel by interrupting the installation
> and mounting the installed system . The system still hangs regardless
> what I'm trying to do. Does anyone have same experience? Please help,
> Thank you.

Make sure that it isn't trying to run rhgb.  Try forcing it to run level
3 w/out rhgb so that you can configure X by hand.  Take out 'quiet' too
so that you can see whats going on.

-- 
Jesse Keating RHCE      (geek.j2solutions.net)
Fedora Legacy Team      (www.fedoralegacy.org)
GPG Public Key          (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub)
 
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 http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=jkeating


From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Sat Apr  9 12:36:34 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Sat Apr  9 12:36:52 2005
Subject: iBook G3 owners
In-Reply-To: <1112594783.26086.22.camel@gaston>
References: <1112594783.26086.22.camel@gaston>
Message-ID: <1113064594.4636.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 16:06 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> There have been various reports of issues with sleep among others on
> iBook G3 equiped with the 750FX processor. Also, the cpufreq code on
> these so far didn't change the CPU voltage, which limited the actual
> power saving at low frequency.

Sleep hasn't worked properly on my PowerBook G4 since I applied your
first pair of patches. The current behaviour seems to be that short
periods of sleep appear to work OK, but a fairly random death happens
after a longer sleep. Last time it was ohci_hcd complaining of an
uninitialised spinlock.

I'm half inclined to suspect RAM isn't being refreshed properly -- but
most of the kernel text still seems to be there and it manages to oops
and panic OK, so perhaps it's just that the dcache isn't correctly
disabled, or isn't correctly flushed when we enable it again?

I'll rebuild the Fedora kernel without any of the patches to eliminate
the possibility that it's caused by some other change.

-- 
dwmw2


From benh at kernel.crashing.org  Sat Apr  9 19:37:10 2005
From: benh at kernel.crashing.org (Benjamin Herrenschmidt)
Date: Sat Apr  9 19:44:41 2005
Subject: iBook G3 owners
In-Reply-To: <1113064594.4636.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1112594783.26086.22.camel@gaston>
	<1113064594.4636.28.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1113089830.9518.444.camel@gaston>

On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 17:36 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 16:06 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > There have been various reports of issues with sleep among others on
> > iBook G3 equiped with the 750FX processor. Also, the cpufreq code on
> > these so far didn't change the CPU voltage, which limited the actual
> > power saving at low frequency.
> 
> Sleep hasn't worked properly on my PowerBook G4 since I applied your
> first pair of patches. The current behaviour seems to be that short
> periods of sleep appear to work OK, but a fairly random death happens
> after a longer sleep. Last time it was ohci_hcd complaining of an
> uninitialised spinlock.
> 
> I'm half inclined to suspect RAM isn't being refreshed properly -- but
> most of the kernel text still seems to be there and it manages to oops
> and panic OK, so perhaps it's just that the dcache isn't correctly
> disabled, or isn't correctly flushed when we enable it again?

That kind of sleep is usually related to cache flush issues ... the
setup of RAM auto refresh isn't under kernel code control, it's entirely
done by the chipset when entering sleep state.

What is strange however is that none of these 2 patches have _any_
effect on your machine model. Can you confirm that's indeed the patches
you were talking about ? 

ppc32-750-errata-fix.diff
ppc32-pmac-sleep-fix.diff

> I'll rebuild the Fedora kernel without any of the patches to eliminate
> the possibility that it's caused by some other change.

Make sure you have the 2 cpufreq related patches though, there are
issues with CPU voltage possibly not correct on wakeup that can cause
similar problems.

Ben.



From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Wed Apr 13 08:43:02 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (Paul Cieslar)
Date: Wed Apr 13 08:44:24 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
Message-ID: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>

I have installed FC3 on my ibook, only 2 things i appear to be having problems with are sound and vncviewer.  

The most important problem at the moment is the vncviewer.  The only linux viewer I can find is desiged for i386 and therefore won't install.

Does anyone know where i can find a ppc viewer?

Thanks. 

 
__________________________________________________________________________
Sent via Cable & Wireless Guernsey system at cwgsy.net


 
                          

From byte at aeon.com.my  Wed Apr 13 09:28:30 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Wed Apr 13 09:29:22 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
In-Reply-To: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>
References: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>
Message-ID: <1113398910.16486.36.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:43 +0100, Paul Cieslar wrote:
> I have installed FC3 on my ibook, only 2 things i appear to be having problems with are sound and vncviewer.  

What sound issues are these?

> The most important problem at the moment is the vncviewer.  The only linux viewer I can find is desiged for i386 and therefore won't install.

Get the vnc package, and you should get vncviewer

> Does anyone know where i can find a ppc viewer?

A ppc vncviewer? the "vnc" package provides it
-- 
Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi


From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Wed Apr 13 08:44:10 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (paul c)
Date: Wed Apr 13 09:42:12 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
In-Reply-To: <1113398910.16486.36.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
References: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>
	<1113398910.16486.36.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
Message-ID: <1113396250.3476.15.camel@apple1>

The sound problem is there is no sound.  I go to applications > system
settings > soundcard detection.  This leads to the error message "No
sound cards were detected"

I had already downloaded the latest vnc package, which led to the
following error:
--
[root@Apple1 paulc]# rpm -ihv vnc-4_1_1-1.i386.rpm
error: Failed dependencies:
        ld-linux.so.2 is needed by vnc-4.1.1-1.i386
--
I tried a similar rpm which told me: package vnc-4.0-5 is intended for a
i386 architecture


thanks again.

Paul C

On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 23:28 +1000, Colin Charles wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:43 +0100, Paul Cieslar wrote:
> > I have installed FC3 on my ibook, only 2 things i appear to be having problems with are sound and vncviewer.  
> 
> What sound issues are these?
> 
> > The most important problem at the moment is the vncviewer.  The only linux viewer I can find is desiged for i386 and therefore won't install.
> 
> Get the vnc package, and you should get vncviewer
> 
> > Does anyone know where i can find a ppc viewer?
> 
> A ppc vncviewer? the "vnc" package provides it


From jburrell at webulan.com  Wed Apr 13 10:04:32 2005
From: jburrell at webulan.com (Jimmy D.Burrell)
Date: Wed Apr 13 10:04:38 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
In-Reply-To: <1113396250.3476.15.camel@apple1>
References: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>
	<1113398910.16486.36.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1113396250.3476.15.camel@apple1>
Message-ID: <F569FE96-AC24-11D9-B777-000D93346680@webulan.com>

Hi Paul,

Maybe Charles was referring to this package (watch out for url breaks!)

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.91/ppc/ 
os/Fedora/RPMS/vnc-4.1.1-8.ppc.rpm

Sounds like this should fix you up.

Jim...

On Apr 13, 2005, at 7:44 AM, paul c wrote:

> The sound problem is there is no sound.  I go to applications > system
> settings > soundcard detection.  This leads to the error message "No
> sound cards were detected"
>
> I had already downloaded the latest vnc package, which led to the
> following error:
> --
> [root@Apple1 paulc]# rpm -ihv vnc-4_1_1-1.i386.rpm
> error: Failed dependencies:
>         ld-linux.so.2 is needed by vnc-4.1.1-1.i386
> --
> I tried a similar rpm which told me: package vnc-4.0-5 is intended for  
> a
> i386 architecture
>
>
> thanks again.
>
> Paul C
>
> On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 23:28 +1000, Colin Charles wrote:
>> On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:43 +0100, Paul Cieslar wrote:
>>> I have installed FC3 on my ibook, only 2 things i appear to be  
>>> having problems with are sound and vncviewer.
>>
>> What sound issues are these?
>>
>>> The most important problem at the moment is the vncviewer.  The only  
>>> linux viewer I can find is desiged for i386 and therefore won't  
>>> install.
>>
>> Get the vnc package, and you should get vncviewer
>>
>>> Does anyone know where i can find a ppc viewer?
>>
>> A ppc vncviewer? the "vnc" package provides it
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Fedora-ppc mailing list
> Fedora-ppc@lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc


From byte at aeon.com.my  Wed Apr 13 10:13:38 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Wed Apr 13 10:14:32 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
In-Reply-To: <1113396250.3476.15.camel@apple1>
References: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>
	<1113398910.16486.36.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1113396250.3476.15.camel@apple1>
Message-ID: <1113401618.16486.43.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:44 +0100, paul c wrote:
> The sound problem is there is no sound.  I go to applications > system
> settings > soundcard detection.  This leads to the error message "No
> sound cards were detected"

Magic in /etc/modprobe.conf needs to happen. What Mac do you have and
what kinda sound device is it?

> I had already downloaded the latest vnc package, which led to the
> following error:
> --
> [root@Apple1 paulc]# rpm -ihv vnc-4_1_1-1.i386.rpm
> error: Failed dependencies:
>         ld-linux.so.2 is needed by vnc-4.1.1-1.i386
> --
> I tried a similar rpm which told me: package vnc-4.0-5 is intended for
> a
> i386 architecture

Get the vnc-4_1_1-1.ppc.rpm

Or an older version for fc3:

http://fedoraproject.org/fedorappc/FC-3/os/Fedora/RPMS/vnc-4.0-8.ppc.rpm

>From now on, you don't want anything that is *.i386.rpm. You're aiming
for *.ppc.rpm
-- 
Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi


From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Wed Apr 13 11:39:03 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (paul c)
Date: Wed Apr 13 12:36:58 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
In-Reply-To: <1113401618.16486.43.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
References: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>
	<1113398910.16486.36.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1113396250.3476.15.camel@apple1>
	<1113401618.16486.43.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
Message-ID: <1113406744.3148.3.camel@apple1>

Thanks colin. I tried a newer rpm and had more dependency error
messages.  That link below installed and does the job.

I do not have a component list with me at work, but will reply with the
system details when i get home, re: sound problems.

Thanks again everyone

Paul C

On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 00:13 +1000, Colin Charles wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:44 +0100, paul c wrote:
> > The sound problem is there is no sound.  I go to applications > system
> > settings > soundcard detection.  This leads to the error message "No
> > sound cards were detected"
> 
> Magic in /etc/modprobe.conf needs to happen. What Mac do you have and
> what kinda sound device is it?
> 
> > I had already downloaded the latest vnc package, which led to the
> > following error:
> > --
> > [root@Apple1 paulc]# rpm -ihv vnc-4_1_1-1.i386.rpm
> > error: Failed dependencies:
> >         ld-linux.so.2 is needed by vnc-4.1.1-1.i386
> > --
> > I tried a similar rpm which told me: package vnc-4.0-5 is intended for
> > a
> > i386 architecture
> 
> Get the vnc-4_1_1-1.ppc.rpm
> 
> Or an older version for fc3:
> 
> http://fedoraproject.org/fedorappc/FC-3/os/Fedora/RPMS/vnc-4.0-8.ppc.rpm
> 
> >From now on, you don't want anything that is *.i386.rpm. You're aiming
> for *.ppc.rpm


From dres at mediaguide.com  Wed Apr 13 15:44:38 2005
From: dres at mediaguide.com (Andres Garcia)
Date: Wed Apr 13 15:53:19 2005
Subject: Dual display and compaible USB wireless iBook G4
Message-ID: <425D76A6.10001@mediaguide.com>

Hi everyone, I am running both FC3 and FC4T1 on my iBook 800 Mhz G4. 
I've been using fedora for a while and I have been mucking with fedora 
on PPC for a few months and posting on the ppc forums at 
fedoraforum.org. I consider myself fairly well versed as i have solved 
every other problem i've come up with (except the damn skin not showing 
up in mplayer from the FC3 rpm i used). I am trying to set the ibook up 
to use the vga out and to have wireless from a wireless adapter (since 
the airport extreme is not uspported).

Does any one know any good, pref. cheap wireless usb adapters that are 
compatible with fedora on PPC, I don't know much about usb wireless 
adapters and I didn't see a list ? pref. one of the thumbdrive sized 
ones or a smaller one with a little cable going to it. Can I basically 
use any adapter that works on fedora x86?

Also. I am trying to get it set up to mirror the display to the video 
out so I can hook it up to the KVM on my desk (which works, i can see 
video on the display that looks like its from open firmware. . . 
something about initializing fake display and "calling quiesce"). 
However I can't get xorg to seem to use the monitor, i have set up my 
xorg.conf using system-config-display for dual monitor using the radeon 
9200. everything looks good, and fairly similar to my x86 box, is this 
just not supported on PPC. . . or this peice of hardware yet?

Thanks ahead for any input,
Andres Garcia

Here is (most of) my xorg.conf:


Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "Multihead layout"
        Screen      0  "Screen0" LeftOf "Screen1"
        Screen      1  "Screen1" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
        Option      "Xinerama" "off"
        Option      "Clone" "on"
EndSection

. . . keyboard and mouse notes /initializations

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "LCD Panel 1024x768"
        HorizSync    31.5 - 48.5
        VertRefresh  40.0 - 70.0
        Option      "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor1"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Dell P991"
        HorizSync    30.0 - 107.0
        VertRefresh  48.0 - 120.0
        Option      "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Videocard0"
        Driver      "radeon"
        VendorName  "Videocard vendor"
        BoardName   "ATI Radeon Mobility 9200"
        Option      "UseFBDev"    "True"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Videocard1"
        Driver      "radeon"
        VendorName  "Videocard Vendor"
        BoardName   "ATI Radeon Mobility 9200"
        BusID       "PCI:0:16:0"
        Screen      1
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Videocard0"
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        DefaultDepth     16
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     16
                Modes    "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen1"
        Device     "Videocard1"
        Monitor    "Monitor1"
        DefaultDepth     16
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     16
                Modes    "1024x768"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
        Group        0
        Mode         0666
EndSection




-- 
Andres Garcia
Support Engineer
Mediaguide Inc.
610.578.0800 x224
dres@mediaguide.com


From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Wed Apr 13 17:21:12 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (P Cieslar)
Date: Wed Apr 13 17:16:03 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
In-Reply-To: <1113401618.16486.43.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
References: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>	
	<1113398910.16486.36.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>	
	<1113396250.3476.15.camel@apple1>
	<1113401618.16486.43.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
Message-ID: <425D8D48.20203@cwgsy.net>

When I go into the hardware browser in FC3, the sound card shows as 
snd_powermac.

I don't know how much information I can give you, but here are the specs:

CPU - 800MHz G3
256MB SDRAM
30GB HDD
Combo Drive
14.1" TFT
32MB Graphics
Model: A1007

Thanks.

Paul C

Colin Charles wrote:

>On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:44 +0100, paul c wrote:
>  
>
>>The sound problem is there is no sound.  I go to applications > system
>>settings > soundcard detection.  This leads to the error message "No
>>sound cards were detected"
>>    
>>
>
>Magic in /etc/modprobe.conf needs to happen. What Mac do you have and
>what kinda sound device is it?
>
>  
>
>>I had already downloaded the latest vnc package, which led to the
>>following error:
>>--
>>[root@Apple1 paulc]# rpm -ihv vnc-4_1_1-1.i386.rpm
>>error: Failed dependencies:
>>        ld-linux.so.2 is needed by vnc-4.1.1-1.i386
>>--
>>I tried a similar rpm which told me: package vnc-4.0-5 is intended for
>>a
>>i386 architecture
>>    
>>
>
>Get the vnc-4_1_1-1.ppc.rpm
>
>Or an older version for fc3:
>
>http://fedoraproject.org/fedorappc/FC-3/os/Fedora/RPMS/vnc-4.0-8.ppc.rpm
>
>>From now on, you don't want anything that is *.i386.rpm. You're aiming
>for *.ppc.rpm
>  
>


From byte at aeon.com.my  Thu Apr 14 07:49:35 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Thu Apr 14 07:50:28 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
In-Reply-To: <425D8D48.20203@cwgsy.net>
References: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>
	<1113398910.16486.36.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1113396250.3476.15.camel@apple1>
	<1113401618.16486.43.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<425D8D48.20203@cwgsy.net>
Message-ID: <1113479375.16486.110.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 22:21 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
> 
> I don't know how much information I can give you, but here are the
> specs:
> 
> CPU - 800MHz G3
> 256MB SDRAM
> 30GB HDD
> Combo Drive
> 14.1" TFT
> 32MB Graphics
> Model: A1007

Is this an iBook g3?

give us an output of lspci 
-- 
Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi


From byte at aeon.com.my  Thu Apr 14 08:10:38 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Thu Apr 14 08:11:29 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
In-Reply-To: <F569FE96-AC24-11D9-B777-000D93346680@webulan.com>
References: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>
	<1113398910.16486.36.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1113396250.3476.15.camel@apple1>
	<F569FE96-AC24-11D9-B777-000D93346680@webulan.com>
Message-ID: <1113480638.16486.112.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 09:04 -0500, Jimmy D.Burrell wrote:
> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.91/ppc/ 
> os/Fedora/RPMS/vnc-4.1.1-8.ppc.rpm

No, that will have dependencies that he doesn't meet in FC3

Anyways, he really should be running FC4 test2. Its a lot better
-- 
Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi


From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Thu Apr 14 07:55:37 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (paul c)
Date: Thu Apr 14 08:53:44 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
In-Reply-To: <1113479375.16486.110.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
References: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>
	<1113398910.16486.36.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1113396250.3476.15.camel@apple1>
	<1113401618.16486.43.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<425D8D48.20203@cwgsy.net>
	<1113479375.16486.110.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
Message-ID: <1113479738.3238.1.camel@apple1>

Yes it is a g3 ibook.  output as follows:
--
00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea AGP
00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility
M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea PCI
0001:10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea Mac I/O
0001:10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
0001:10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
0002:20:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea Internal
PCI
0002:20:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea
FireWire (rev ff)
0002:20:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea
GMAC (Sun GEM)
--

Thanks.

Paul C

On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 21:49 +1000, Colin Charles wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 22:21 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
> > 
> > I don't know how much information I can give you, but here are the
> > specs:
> > 
> > CPU - 800MHz G3
> > 256MB SDRAM
> > 30GB HDD
> > Combo Drive
> > 14.1" TFT
> > 32MB Graphics
> > Model: A1007
> 
> Is this an iBook g3?
> 
> give us an output of lspci 


From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Fri Apr 15 07:41:44 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (P Cieslar)
Date: Fri Apr 15 07:42:41 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
In-Reply-To: <1113480638.16486.112.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
References: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>	<1113398910.16486.36.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>	<1113396250.3476.15.camel@apple1>	<F569FE96-AC24-11D9-B777-000D93346680@webulan.com>
	<1113480638.16486.112.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
Message-ID: <425FA878.8030107@cwgsy.net>

Hi Colin.  After your subtle hint below, I installed FC4 Test 2 last 
night.  Whenever I login, the message "No volume control elements and/or 
devices found."
The output of lspci is:
--

00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea AGP
00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility
M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea PCI
0001:10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea Mac I/O
0001:10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
0001:10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
0002:20:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea Internal
PCI
0002:20:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea
FireWire (rev ff)
0002:20:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea
GMAC (Sun GEM)
--

Thanks.

Paul C

Colin Charles wrote:

>On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 09:04 -0500, Jimmy D.Burrell wrote:
>  
>
>>http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/test/3.91/ppc/ 
>>os/Fedora/RPMS/vnc-4.1.1-8.ppc.rpm
>>    
>>
>
>No, that will have dependencies that he doesn't meet in FC3
>
>Anyways, he really should be running FC4 test2. Its a lot better
>  
>


From pauln at truemesh.com  Fri Apr 15 08:09:43 2005
From: pauln at truemesh.com (Paul Nasrat)
Date: Fri Apr 15 08:08:43 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
In-Reply-To: <425FA878.8030107@cwgsy.net>
References: <200504131343.AA88211934@cwgsy.net>
	<1113398910.16486.36.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1113396250.3476.15.camel@apple1>
	<F569FE96-AC24-11D9-B777-000D93346680@webulan.com>
	<1113480638.16486.112.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<425FA878.8030107@cwgsy.net>
Message-ID: <1113566983.3782.71.camel@anu.eridu>

On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 12:41 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
> Hi Colin.  After your subtle hint below, I installed FC4 Test 2 last 
> night.  Whenever I login, the message "No volume control elements and/or 
> devices found."
> The output of lspci is:
> --
> 
> 00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea AGP
> 00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility
> M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
> 0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea PCI
> 0001:10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea Mac I/O
> 0001:10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
> 0001:10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
> 0002:20:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea Internal
> PCI
> 0002:20:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea
> FireWire (rev ff)
> 0002:20:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea
> GMAC (Sun GEM)

Can you cat /etc/modprobe.conf

Paul


From pcieslar at beeb.net  Fri Apr 15 11:27:14 2005
From: pcieslar at beeb.net (P Cieslar)
Date: Fri Apr 15 11:26:04 2005
Subject: FC4 Test 2 Issues
Message-ID: <425FDD52.7090004@beeb.net>

Sorry for starting a similar thread, but the old thread "vncviewer" was 
no longer letting me reply.

I have had my ibook for over 2 years now.  The first time i have ever 
heard the fan was last night - after installing FC4.  The same thing 
happened again today, while the ibook was sitting idle.  The fan was 
very loud and the ibook was incredibly hot.  Have never seen it this 
way, even with FC3 installed.

A few questions:
Is this normal?
Will this damage my ibook?
How do I get sound?
How do I get my modem working?

lspci shows:

--
00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea AGP
00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility
M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea PCI
0001:10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea Mac I/O
0001:10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
0001:10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
0002:20:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea Internal
PCI
0002:20:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea
FireWire (rev ff)
0002:20:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea
GMAC (Sun GEM)
--

and cat /etc/modprobe.conf shows:
--
alias eth0 sungem
alias usb-controller ohci-hcd
--

g3 ibook, model A1007.

thanks in advance.

Paul C



From dcurran at ti.com  Fri Apr 15 15:46:05 2005
From: dcurran at ti.com (Curran, Dominic)
Date: Fri Apr 15 15:46:20 2005
Subject: fsck.ext3 Unable to resolve 'Label=/'
Message-ID: <9AB22454EB544F42AB0AEFF44DB325EF01B55BA4@dlee2k05.ent.ti.com>


Hi

On first boot after installations I get this error
"fsck.ext3 Unable to resolve `LABEL=/`.
Give root password for maintenance
(or type Control-D to continue):
(Repair filesystem) 1 #

Some other web sites suggest changing the line in /etc/fstab from
LABEL=/ to /dev/sda7. 
But the 'Repair filesystem' is mounted read only so I can't edit any
files !?

Thanks
dom

From strange at nsk.no-ip.org  Fri Apr 15 16:04:27 2005
From: strange at nsk.no-ip.org (Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha)
Date: Fri Apr 15 16:04:37 2005
Subject: fsck.ext3 Unable to resolve 'Label=/'
In-Reply-To: <9AB22454EB544F42AB0AEFF44DB325EF01B55BA4@dlee2k05.ent.ti.com>
References: <9AB22454EB544F42AB0AEFF44DB325EF01B55BA4@dlee2k05.ent.ti.com>
Message-ID: <20050415200427.GA6613@nsk.no-ip.org>

On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 02:46:05PM -0500, Curran, Dominic wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> On first boot after installations I get this error
> "fsck.ext3 Unable to resolve `LABEL=/`.
> Give root password for maintenance
> (or type Control-D to continue):
> (Repair filesystem) 1 #
> 
> Some other web sites suggest changing the line in /etc/fstab from
> LABEL=/ to /dev/sda7. 
> But the 'Repair filesystem' is mounted read only so I can't edit any
> files !?

fsck.ext3 /dev/sda7, just in case, then:

mount / -o remount,rw

-- lfr
-- 
0/0

From byte at aeon.com.my  Fri Apr 15 17:58:26 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Fri Apr 15 17:59:26 2005
Subject: FC4 Test 2 Issues
In-Reply-To: <425FDD52.7090004@beeb.net>
References: <425FDD52.7090004@beeb.net>
Message-ID: <1113602306.4518.101.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 16:27 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:

> I have had my ibook for over 2 years now.  The first time i have ever 
> heard the fan was last night - after installing FC4.  The same thing 
> happened again today, while the ibook was sitting idle.  The fan was 
> very loud and the ibook was incredibly hot.  Have never seen it this 
> way, even with FC3 installed.

It happens to me sometimes....

> A few questions:
> Is this normal?

Somewhat; install apmud from Extras, it might help power manage your
laptop

> Will this damage my ibook?

Probably not

> How do I get sound?

I just popped rawhide on mine, I'll be working on this soon

> How do I get my modem working?

www.linuxant.com

Commercial only drivers, you have yourself a hsf modem
-- 
Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi


From joe at nall.com  Sat Apr 16 16:22:35 2005
From: joe at nall.com (Joe Nall)
Date: Sat Apr 16 16:22:43 2005
Subject: Core 4 test 2 install on powerbook does not see firewire disk
Message-ID: <4fd8a61f7a698bd944f746e0dda4f2ce@nall.com>

I would like to install core 4 test 2 onto an external firewire disk
on my Powerbook. Is this supported? The installer does not see the
disk, but Mac OS X does.

joe


From blofeldus at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 16 17:36:05 2005
From: blofeldus at yahoo.com (roger blofeld)
Date: Sat Apr 16 17:36:06 2005
Subject: 8250 vs pmac_zilog
Message-ID: <20050416213605.78511.qmail@web53508.mail.yahoo.com>

I've got a pmac running rawhide and have installed the
kernel-smp-2.6.11-1.1240_FC4 package. Trouble is, the 8250 serial
module is built-in, so I can't load the pmac_zilog module to use my
serial ports. From the syslog:

Apr 16 10:32:30 bert kernel: pmac_zilog: 0.6 (Benjamin Herrenschmidt
<benh@kernel.crashing.org>)
Apr 16 10:32:30 bert kernel: pmac_zilog: i2c-modem detected, id: 1
Apr 16 10:32:30 bert kernel: pmac_zilog: Error registering serial
device, disabling pmac_zilog.
Apr 16 10:32:30 bert kernel: pmac_zilog: Did another serial driver
already claim the minors?


I can tweek the "kernel-2.6.11-ppc-smp.config" and rebuild the kernel
to fix this, but is there another option? Shouldn't the ppc kernel have
8250 as a module so a "alias char-major-4 pmac_zilog" in my
modprobe.conf would do the right thing?

thanks
-roger



		
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From byte at aeon.com.my  Sat Apr 16 19:44:46 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Sat Apr 16 19:45:46 2005
Subject: Core 4 test 2 install on powerbook does not see firewire disk
In-Reply-To: <4fd8a61f7a698bd944f746e0dda4f2ce@nall.com>
References: <4fd8a61f7a698bd944f746e0dda4f2ce@nall.com>
Message-ID: <1113695086.4518.181.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 15:22 -0500, Joe Nall wrote:
> I would like to install core 4 test 2 onto an external firewire disk
> on my Powerbook. Is this supported? The installer does not see the
> disk, but Mac OS X does.

AFAIK, this is not supported. While YDL have patched their 4.0 to do
this (see YDL booting iPod's), they never did send their patches
upstream
-- 
Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi


From linuxppc at gmail.com  Sun Apr 17 19:31:42 2005
From: linuxppc at gmail.com (Justin Kelly)
Date: Sun Apr 17 19:31:44 2005
Subject: FC4 Test 2 Issues
In-Reply-To: <1113602306.4518.101.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
References: <425FDD52.7090004@beeb.net>
	<1113602306.4518.101.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
Message-ID: <e5d5dc20050417163167bc9493@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Paul

re sound: on my Powermac G4 400 to enable sound i added the following
to /etc/modprobe.conf
___________________________

add the following content?
# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116* snd
alias snd-card-0 snd_powermac

# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14* soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0

# card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

install snd-card-0 /sbin/modprobe ~@~Signore-install snd-card-0 && {
/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; }
remove snd-card-0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; };
/sbin/modprobe -r ~@~Signore-remove
install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe ~@~Signore-install sound-slot-0 &&
{ /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 22>&1 || :; }
remove sound-slot-0 { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S
>>/dev/null 2>&1 || :; }; /sbin/modprobe -r ~@~Signore-remove
~

_________________

as mentioned here http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=47432

and sound now works great

anyone had any luck getting modems to work on PowerMacs (specifically G4 400)?

cheers

Justin Kelly


On 4/16/05, Colin Charles <byte@aeon.com.my> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 16:27 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
> 
> > I have had my ibook for over 2 years now.  The first time i have ever
> > heard the fan was last night - after installing FC4.  The same thing
> > happened again today, while the ibook was sitting idle.  The fan was
> > very loud and the ibook was incredibly hot.  Have never seen it this
> > way, even with FC3 installed.
> 
> It happens to me sometimes....
> 
> > A few questions:
> > Is this normal?
> 
> Somewhat; install apmud from Extras, it might help power manage your
> laptop
> 
> > Will this damage my ibook?
> 
> Probably not
> 
> > How do I get sound?
> 
> I just popped rawhide on mine, I'll be working on this soon
> 
> > How do I get my modem working?
> 
> www.linuxant.com
> 
> Commercial only drivers, you have yourself a hsf modem
> --
> Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
> http://www.bytebot.net/
> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
> then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Fedora-ppc@lists.infradead.org
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>

From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Mon Apr 18 19:00:44 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (P Cieslar)
Date: Mon Apr 18 18:59:23 2005
Subject: FC4 Test 2 Issues
In-Reply-To: <e5d5dc20050417163167bc9493@mail.gmail.com>
References: <425FDD52.7090004@beeb.net>	<1113602306.4518.101.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<e5d5dc20050417163167bc9493@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42643C1C.40809@cwgsy.net>

I added that to my modprobe.conf when I was using FC3, took it from that
thread also. I never got any sound though. Is there some command I have
to run after updating modprobe.conf?

Thanks.

Paul C

Justin Kelly wrote:

>Hi Paul
>
>re sound: on my Powermac G4 400 to enable sound i added the following
>to /etc/modprobe.conf
>___________________________
>
>add the following content?
># ALSA portion
>alias char-major-116* snd
>alias snd-card-0 snd_powermac
>
># OSS/Free portion
>alias char-major-14* soundcore
>alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
>
># card #1
>alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
>alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
>alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
>alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
>alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
>
>install snd-card-0 /sbin/modprobe ~@~Signore-install snd-card-0 && {
>/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; }
>remove snd-card-0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; };
>/sbin/modprobe -r ~@~Signore-remove
>install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe ~@~Signore-install sound-slot-0 &&
>{ /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 22>&1 || :; }
>remove sound-slot-0 { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S
>  
>
>>>/dev/null 2>&1 || :; }; /sbin/modprobe -r ~@~Signore-remove
>>>      
>>>
>~
>
>_________________
>
>as mentioned here http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=47432
>
>and sound now works great
>
>anyone had any luck getting modems to work on PowerMacs (specifically G4 400)?
>
>cheers
>
>Justin Kelly
>
>
>On 4/16/05, Colin Charles <byte@aeon.com.my> wrote:
>  
>
>>On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 16:27 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I have had my ibook for over 2 years now.  The first time i have ever
>>>heard the fan was last night - after installing FC4.  The same thing
>>>happened again today, while the ibook was sitting idle.  The fan was
>>>very loud and the ibook was incredibly hot.  Have never seen it this
>>>way, even with FC3 installed.
>>>      
>>>
>>It happens to me sometimes....
>>
>>    
>>
>>>A few questions:
>>>Is this normal?
>>>      
>>>
>>Somewhat; install apmud from Extras, it might help power manage your
>>laptop
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Will this damage my ibook?
>>>      
>>>
>>Probably not
>>
>>    
>>
>>>How do I get sound?
>>>      
>>>
>>I just popped rawhide on mine, I'll be working on this soon
>>
>>    
>>
>>>How do I get my modem working?
>>>      
>>>
>>www.linuxant.com
>>
>>Commercial only drivers, you have yourself a hsf modem
>>--
>>Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
>>http://www.bytebot.net/
>>"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
>>then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Fedora-ppc mailing list
>>Fedora-ppc@lists.infradead.org
>>http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc
>>
>>    
>>
>
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>http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc
>
>
>  
>


From linuxppc at gmail.com  Mon Apr 18 21:16:28 2005
From: linuxppc at gmail.com (Justin Kelly)
Date: Mon Apr 18 21:16:33 2005
Subject: FC4 Test 2 Issues
In-Reply-To: <42643C1C.40809@cwgsy.net>
References: <425FDD52.7090004@beeb.net>
	<1113602306.4518.101.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<e5d5dc20050417163167bc9493@mail.gmail.com> <42643C1C.40809@cwgsy.net>
Message-ID: <e5d5dc200504181816622c878f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Paul

after adding this lines the next time i restarted my G4 the sound just
started working,

stating the obvious here but: the only things i would check are to
make sure that in the Sound Mixer/control that the speakers aren't on
mute :)

if this is still not working have a look on the yellowdoglinux
site/forums, there might be more info there

Cheers

Justin Kelly

On 4/19/05, P Cieslar <pcieslar@cwgsy.net> wrote:
> I added that to my modprobe.conf when I was using FC3, took it from that
> thread also. I never got any sound though. Is there some command I have
> to run after updating modprobe.conf?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Paul C
> 
> Justin Kelly wrote:
> 
> >Hi Paul
> >
> >re sound: on my Powermac G4 400 to enable sound i added the following
> >to /etc/modprobe.conf
> >___________________________
> >
> >add the following content?
> ># ALSA portion
> >alias char-major-116* snd
> >alias snd-card-0 snd_powermac
> >
> ># OSS/Free portion
> >alias char-major-14* soundcore
> >alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> >
> ># card #1
> >alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> >alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> >alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> >alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> >alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> >
> >install snd-card-0 /sbin/modprobe ~@~Signore-install snd-card-0 && {
> >/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; }
> >remove snd-card-0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; };
> >/sbin/modprobe -r ~@~Signore-remove
> >install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe ~@~Signore-install sound-slot-0 &&
> >{ /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 22>&1 || :; }
> >remove sound-slot-0 { /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -S
> >
> >
> >>>/dev/null 2>&1 || :; }; /sbin/modprobe -r ~@~Signore-remove
> >>>
> >>>
> >~
> >
> >_________________
> >
> >as mentioned here http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=47432
> >
> >and sound now works great
> >
> >anyone had any luck getting modems to work on PowerMacs (specifically G4 400)?
> >
> >cheers
> >
> >Justin Kelly
> >
> >
> >On 4/16/05, Colin Charles <byte@aeon.com.my> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 16:27 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I have had my ibook for over 2 years now.  The first time i have ever
> >>>heard the fan was last night - after installing FC4.  The same thing
> >>>happened again today, while the ibook was sitting idle.  The fan was
> >>>very loud and the ibook was incredibly hot.  Have never seen it this
> >>>way, even with FC3 installed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>It happens to me sometimes....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>A few questions:
> >>>Is this normal?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Somewhat; install apmud from Extras, it might help power manage your
> >>laptop
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Will this damage my ibook?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>Probably not
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>How do I get sound?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>I just popped rawhide on mine, I'll be working on this soon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>How do I get my modem working?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>www.linuxant.com
> >>
> >>Commercial only drivers, you have yourself a hsf modem
> >>--
> >>Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
> >>http://www.bytebot.net/
> >>"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
> >>then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Fedora-ppc mailing list
> >>Fedora-ppc@lists.infradead.org
> >>http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Fedora-ppc mailing list
> >Fedora-ppc@lists.infradead.org
> >http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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>

From patrik at ucolick.org  Tue Apr 19 15:48:27 2005
From: patrik at ucolick.org (Patrik Jonsson)
Date: Tue Apr 19 15:48:38 2005
Subject: Problem compiling kernel on OldWorld Mac
Message-ID: <4265608B.5070208@ucolick.org>

Hi all,

I managed to install fc3 on my old PowerCenterPro, but unfortunately the 
kernel that I used for the installation has the SCSI drivers compiled as 
modules (mac53c94 and aix7xxx), so the system can't boot since it can't 
see the disks.  I figured I could just recompile the kernel with these 
drivers included, so I used the installer to get a shell going and 
chroot'ed into my installation. I got the kernel source from 
http://fedoraproject.org/fedorappc/FC-3/ and recompiled with the SCSI 
drivers included.  However, this kernel does nothing.  I copied all the 
versions of vmlinux in arch/ppc/boot/images to my MacOS volume, and 
BootX only recognizes vmlinux.elf-pmac. The others don't show up in the 
list of kernels available.  (I'm out of date on this kernel naming, back 
when I last compiled a kernel you got a vmlinux or vmlinuz and that was 
it...)  When I try to boot this, the system just hangs.  No message, no 
nothing.  I did cut out a lot of useless stuff from the kernel 
compilation, but I would think that I would at least get to the 
pmac_init() screen. The video driver (atyfb) was compiled in.

So, my questions are:
1. Is there anything obvious that would completely prevent my compiled 
kernel from booting?
2.  Is it normal that BootX only shows the vmlinux.elf-pmac kernel?  I 
would have expected vmlinux.coff to show up, since I was under the 
impression that it is the old "vmlinuz" format?
3. Was the installer kernel compiled with the "default" ppc config file 
in the kernel source?

Thanks,

/Patrik


From byte at aeon.com.my  Thu Apr 21 19:47:04 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Thu Apr 21 20:13:14 2005
Subject: fedora 4 test 2 on ppc (dual proc g5)
In-Reply-To: <OF67148005.5FCE7CED-ON85256FEA.005B5E1C-85256FEA.005D8A5B@.itec.suny.edu>
References: <OF67148005.5FCE7CED-ON85256FEA.005B5E1C-85256FEA.005D8A5B@.itec.suny.edu>
Message-ID: <1114127224.3900.131.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 13:04 -0400, Joe.Hoot@itec.suny.edu wrote:
> 
> I just downloaded the fedora core test2 for ppc.  I rebooted my PPC
> Dual G5.  I was prompted by yaboot and hit enter to except the default
> kernel "linux."  The kernel starts to load and then dies.  I shutdown
> the machine and started it back up and at yaboot, typed linux nofb.
>  It started to load again and then died again.  Here is the output
> when it stops booting: 

Wrong list, fedora-test-list is where this should go

> opening display /pci@0,fd000000/NVDA,Parent@10/NVDA,Display-B@1... ok 
> copying 0F device tree...done 
> starting cpu /cpus/PowerPC,G5...failed: 0000000 

Don't have a g5, but that surely looks wrong

> Initializing fake screen: NVDA,Display-A 
> Calling quiesce ... 
> returning 0x01400000 from prom_init 
> 
> Invalid memory access at    SRR0:  00000000.01403b7c    SRR1:
> 10000000.000083030 

> Any suggestions?  Is this a problem with dual proc g5's?  Is there any
> way to disable SMP with a kernel parameter that can be passwed?  

max_cpus=1 might work. In fact, whats in there might actually be a
uniprocessor kernel, because there was a bug (or still is a bug) in
relation to the installation

So hit tab, and don't boot into linux (there should be another kernel there, its just not the default)
-- 
Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi


From linuxppc at gmail.com  Thu Apr 21 20:16:03 2005
From: linuxppc at gmail.com (Justin Kelly)
Date: Thu Apr 21 20:16:06 2005
Subject: Modem - G4 Powermac - issues
Message-ID: <e5d5dc200504211716585214db@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

Does Fedora PPC have support for PowerPC modems at the moment?

When i attempt to use the Internet Wizard or wvdial I get errors '-->
Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Input/output error' (see wvdial log below)

also Kudzu doesnt pick up any modems (See kudzu log below)

In the old days :) when i was using gentoo ppc to get modems working
you had to compile 'macserial' into the kernel and modpobe macserial
to get it working if you had any issues, has macserial been
depreciated as I cant find it when i attempt to recompile the fedora
or cent kernel?

ive tried
http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/support/solutions/ydl_4.0/dialup.shtml
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO.html
and more but have had no luck

http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=52183

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get modems working?

Bit of a spastic question but do PowerMacs use HCF modems, if so is
just using the Linuxant drivers the easiest solution?

Below is some more detailed logs and info about my system

Thanks

Justin 
______________
STTY
_______________
[root@localhost justin]# stty -F /dev/ttyS0
stty: /dev/ttyS0: Input/output error
_______________
FUSER
_______________
[root@localhost justin]# /sbin/fuser /dev/ttyS0
_______________
[root@localhost justin]# /sbin/fuser -k /dev/ttyS0
_______________
WVDIAL
_______________
[root@localhost justin]# wvdial Pacific
--> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.54.0
--> Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Input/output error
--> Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Input/output error
--> Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Input/output error
_______________
KUDZU
_______________
[root@localhost justin]# /usr/sbin/kudzu -p
-
class: OTHER
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: unknown
desc: "Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth Internal PCI"
vendorId: 106b
deviceId: 001e
subVendorId: 0000
subDeviceId: 0000
pciType: 1
pcidom:    2
pcibus: 21
pcidev:  b
pcifn:  0
-
class: OTHER
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: unknown
desc: "Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo Mac I/O"
vendorId: 106b
deviceId: 0022
subVendorId: 0000
subDeviceId: 0000
pciType: 1
pcidom:    1
pcibus: 11
pcidev:  7
pcifn:  0
-
class: OTHER
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: unknown
desc: "Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21154"
vendorId: 1011
deviceId: 0026
subVendorId: 0000
subDeviceId: 0000
pciType: 1
pcidom:    1
pcibus: 10
pcidev:  d
pcifn:  0
-
class: OTHER
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: unknown
desc: "Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth PCI"
vendorId: 106b
deviceId: 001f
subVendorId: 0000
subDeviceId: 0000
pciType: 1
pcidom:    1
pcibus: 10
pcidev:  b
pcifn:  0
-
class: OTHER
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: unknown
desc: "Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth AGP"
vendorId: 106b
deviceId: 0020
subVendorId: 0000
subDeviceId: 0000
pciType: 1
pcidom:    0
pcibus:  0
pcidev:  b
pcifn:  0
-
class: OTHER
bus: USB
detached: 0
driver: unknown
desc: "Linux 2.6.11-1.1226_FC4 ohci_hcd OHCI Host Controller"
usbclass: 9
usbsubclass: 0
usbprotocol: 0
usbbus: 1
usblevel: 0
usbport: 0
usbdev: 1
vendorId: 0000
deviceId: 0000
usbmfr: Linux 2.6.11-1.1226_FC4 ohci_hcd
usbprod: OHCI Host Controller
-
class: OTHER
bus: USB
detached: 0
driver: unknown
desc: "Linux 2.6.11-1.1226_FC4 ohci_hcd OHCI Host Controller"
usbclass: 9
usbsubclass: 0
usbprotocol: 0
usbbus: 2
usblevel: 0
usbport: 0
usbdev: 1
vendorId: 0000
deviceId: 0000
usbmfr: Linux 2.6.11-1.1226_FC4 ohci_hcd
usbprod: OHCI Host Controller
-
class: OTHER
bus: USB
detached: 0
driver: unknown
desc: "Mitsumi Electric Apple Extended USB Keyboard"
usbclass: 3
usbsubclass: 0
usbprotocol: 0
usbbus: 2
usblevel: 2
usbport: 2
usbdev: 4
vendorId: 05ac
deviceId: 020b
usbmfr: Mitsumi Electric
usbprod: Apple Extended USB Keyboard
-
class: OTHER
bus: USB
detached: 0
driver: unknown
desc: "Mitsumi Electric Hub in Apple Extended USB Keyboard"
usbclass: 9
usbsubclass: 0
usbprotocol: 0
usbbus: 2
usblevel: 1
usbport: 0
usbdev: 2
vendorId: 05ac
deviceId: 1003
usbmfr: Mitsumi Electric
usbprod: Hub in Apple Extended USB Keyboard
-
class: OTHER
bus: PSAUX
detached: 0
driver: ignore
desc: "PowerMac Beep"
-
class: NETWORK
bus: PCI
detached: 0
device: eth0
driver: sungem
desc: "Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth GMAC (Sun GEM)"
network.hwaddr: 00:30:65:8F:4C:16
vendorId: 106b
deviceId: 0021
subVendorId: ffff
subDeviceId: ffff
pciType: 1
pcidom:    2
pcibus: 21
pcidev:  f
pcifn:  0
-
class: SCSI
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: aic7xxx
desc: "Adaptec AHA-7850"
vendorId: 9004
deviceId: 5078
subVendorId: 9004
subDeviceId: 7850
pciType: 1
pcidom:    1
pcibus: 11
pcidev:  4
pcifn:  0
-
class: MOUSE
bus: USB
detached: 0
device: input/mice
driver: genericwheelusb
desc: "Cypress Semiconductor Corp. Mouse"
usbclass: 3
usbsubclass: 1
usbprotocol: 2
usbbus: 2
usblevel: 2
usbport: 0
usbdev: 3
vendorId: 04b4
deviceId: 0001
usbmfr: 4D Mouse
usbprod: USB Mouse
-
class: MOUSE
bus: PSAUX
detached: 0
device: input/mice
driver: generic3ps/2
desc: "Macintosh mouse button emulation"
-
class: AUDIO
bus: MACIO
detached: 0
driver: snd_powermac
desc: "Apple Computer Inc.|PowerMac Sound"
-
class: CDROM
bus: IDE
detached: 0
device: hdc
driver: ignore
desc: "PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D"
-
class: VIDEO
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: Card:ATI Rage 128
desc: "ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PF/PRO AGP 4x TMDS"
vendorId: 1002
deviceId: 5046
subVendorId: 0000
subDeviceId: 0000
pciType: 1
pcidom:    0
pcibus:  0
pcidev: 10
pcifn:  0
-
class: VIDEO
bus: DDC
detached: 0
driver: unknown
desc: "ATY Rage128"
mem: 1048576
-
class: HD
bus: IDE
detached: 0
device: hda
driver: ignore
desc: "WDC WD2000JB-00GVA0"
physical: 16383/16/63
logical: 24321/255/63
-
class: HD
bus: IDE
detached: 0
device: hdb
driver: ignore
desc: "ST340810A"
physical: 16383/16/63
logical: 65535/16/63
-
class: KEYBOARD
bus: USB
detached: 0
driver: keybdev
desc: "Mitsumi Electric Apple Extended USB Keyboard"
usbclass: 3
usbsubclass: 1
usbprotocol: 1
usbbus: 2
usblevel: 2
usbport: 2
usbdev: 4
vendorId: 05ac
deviceId: 020b
usbmfr: Mitsumi Electric
usbprod: Apple Extended USB Keyboard
-
class: USB
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: ohci-hcd
desc: "Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo USB"
vendorId: 106b
deviceId: 0019
subVendorId: 0000
subDeviceId: 0000
pciType: 1
pcidom:    1
pcibus: 11
pcidev:  9
pcifn:  0
-
class: USB
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: ohci-hcd
desc: "Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo USB"
vendorId: 106b
deviceId: 0019
subVendorId: 0000
subDeviceId: 0000
pciType: 1
pcidom:    1
pcibus: 11
pcidev:  8
pcifn:  0
-
class: FIREWIRE
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: ohci1394
desc: "Texas Instruments TSB12LV23 IEEE-1394 Controller"
vendorId: 104c
deviceId: 8019
subVendorId: 0000
subDeviceId: 0000
pciType: 1
pcidom:    1
pcibus: 11
pcidev:  a
pcifn:  0
____________________
LSPCI
____________________
[root@localhost justin]# /sbin/lspci -v
00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth AGP
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 16
        Capabilities: [80] AGP version 1.0

00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128
PF/PRO AGP 4x T MDS (prog-if 00 [VGA])
        Flags: bus master, stepping, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 48
        Memory at 0000000094000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
        I/O ports at 802400 [size=256]
        Memory at 0000000090000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Expansion ROM at 00000000f1000000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [50] AGP version 2.0
        Capabilities: [5c] Power Management version 2

0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth PCI
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 16

0001:10:0d.0 PCI bridge: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21154
(rev 05) (p rog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 32
        Bus: primary=10, secondary=11, subordinate=11, sec-latency=32
        I/O behind bridge: 00001000-00001fff
        Memory behind bridge: 80000000-800fffff
        Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1

0001:11:04.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-7850 (rev 03)
        Subsystem: Adaptec AHA-2904/Integrated AIC-7850
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 54
        I/O ports at 1000 [disabled] [size=256]
        Memory at 0000000080083000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
        Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1

0001:11:07.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo Mac I/O (rev 02)
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16
        Memory at 0000000080000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]

0001:11:08.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo USB (prog-if
10 [OHCI] )
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 27
        Memory at 0000000080082000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

0001:11:09.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo USB (prog-if
10 [OHCI] )
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 28
        Memory at 0000000080081000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

0001:11:0a.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB12LV23
IEEE-1394 Control ler (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 63
        Memory at 0000000080080000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
        Memory at 0000000080084000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 1

0002:21:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth Internal PCI
        Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 16

0002:21:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth GMAC
(Sun GEM) (r ev ff) (prog-if ff)
        !!! Unknown header type 7f
______________________
DMESG
______________________
[root@localhost justin]# dmesg
Total memory = 1536MB; using 4096kB for hash table (at c0800000)
Linux version 2.6.11-1.1226_FC4 (bhcompile@cure81.build.redhat.com)
(gcc version 4.0.0 20050402 (Red Hat 4.0.0-0.39)) #1 Mon Apr 4
21:58:05 EDT 2005
Found UniNorth memory controller & host bridge, revision: 7
Mapped at 0xfdeb0000
Found a Keylargo mac-io controller, rev: 2, mapped at 0xfde30000
Processor NAP mode on idle enabled.
PowerMac motherboard: PowerMac G4 AGP Graphics
Found UniNorth PCI host bridge at 0xf0000000. Firmware bus number: 0->0
Found UniNorth PCI host bridge at 0xf2000000. Firmware bus number: 0->1
Found UniNorth PCI host bridge at 0xf4000000. Firmware bus number: 0->0
via-pmu: Server Mode is disabled
PMU driver 2 initialized for Core99, firmware: 0c
nvram: Checking bank 0...
nvram: gen0=718, gen1=719
nvram: Active bank is: 1
nvram: OF partition at 0x210
nvram: XP partition at 0x1220
nvram: NR partition at 0x1320
On node 0 totalpages: 393216
  DMA zone: 196608 pages, LIFO batch:16
  Normal zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
  HighMem zone: 196608 pages, LIFO batch:16
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: ro rhgb quiet root=LABEL=/
PowerMac using OpenPIC irq controller at 0x80040000
OpenPIC Version 1.2 (4 CPUs and 64 IRQ sources) at fc5df000
OpenPIC timer frequency is 4.166666 MHz
PID hash table entries: 4096 (order: 12, 65536 bytes)
GMT Delta read from XPRAM: 600 minutes, DST: off
time_init: decrementer frequency = 24.907667 MHz
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Memory: 1548800k available (3248k kernel code, 1200k data, 196k init,
786432k highmem)
AGP special page: 0xeffff000
Calibrating delay loop... 794.62 BogoMIPS (lpj=397312)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
SELinux:  Initializing.
SELinux:  Starting in permissive mode
selinux_register_security:  Registering secondary module capability
Capability LSM initialized as secondary
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
checking if image is initramfs... it is
Freeing initrd memory: 1088k freed
NET: Registered protocol family 16
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Enabling device 0001:11:04.0 (0014 -> 0017)
Registering openpic with sysfs...
usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub
Thermal assist unit using timers, shrink_timer: 2000 jiffies
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
audit(1114119158.904:0): initialized
highmem bounce pool size: 64 pages
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
SELinux:  Registering netfilter hooks
Initializing Cryptographic API
ksign: Installing public key data
Loading keyring
- Added public key AC058D89DC52FAA8
- User ID: Red Hat, Inc. (Kernel Module GPG key)
PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:10.0 (0086 -> 0087)
aty128fb: Invalid ROM signature 1111 should be 0xaa55
aty128fb: BIOS not located, guessing timings.
aty128fb: Rage128 PF PRO AGP [chip rev 0x1] 16M 128-bit SDR SGRAM (1:1)
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48
fb0: ATY Rage128 frame buffer device on Rage128 PF PRO AGP
Generic RTC Driver v1.07
Macintosh non-volatile memory driver v1.1
Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected Apple UniNorth chipset
agpgart: configuring for size idx: 4
agpgart: AGP aperture is 16M @ 0x0
[drm] Initialized drm 1.0.0 20040925
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 76 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
IN from bad port 3f9 at c01f1b48
IN from bad port 3f9 at c01f1b48
IN from bad port 3f9 at c01f1b48
IN from bad port 2f9 at c01f1b48
IN from bad port 2f9 at c01f1b48
IN from bad port 2f9 at c01f1b48
IN from bad port 3e9 at c01f1b48
IN from bad port 3e9 at c01f1b48
IN from bad port 3e9 at c01f1b48
IN from bad port 2e9 at c01f1b48
IN from bad port 2e9 at c01f1b48
IN from bad port 2e9 at c01f1b48
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered
io scheduler deadline registered
io scheduler cfq registered
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 16384K size 1024 blocksize
MacIO PCI driver attached to Keylargo chipset
input: Macintosh mouse button emulation
apm_emu: APM Emulation 0.5 initialized.
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
adb: starting probe task...
adb: finished probe task...
ide0: Found Apple KeyLargo ATA-4 controller, bus ID 2, irq 19
Probing IDE interface ide0...
hda: WDC WD2000JB-00GVA0, ATA DISK drive
hdb: ST340810A, ATA DISK drive
hda: Enabling Ultra DMA 4
hdb: Enabling Ultra DMA 4
ide0 at 0xf100e000-0xf100e007,0xf100e160 on irq 19
ide1: Found Apple KeyLargo ATA-3 controller, bus ID 0, irq 20
Probing IDE interface ide1...
hdc: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdc: Enabling MultiWord DMA 2
ide1 at 0xf101a000-0xf101a007,0xf101a160 on irq 20
ide2: Found Apple KeyLargo ATA-3 controller, bus ID 1, irq 21
Probing IDE interface ide2...
ide2: Bus empty, interface released.
hda: max request size: 1024KiB
hda: 390721968 sectors (200049 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=24321/255/63, UDMA(66)
hda: cache flushes supported
 hda: [mac] hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 hda10 hda11
hda12 hda13 hda14 hda15 hda16
hdb: max request size: 128KiB
hdb: 78165360 sectors (40020 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, UDMA(66)
hdb: cache flushes not supported
 hdb: [mac] hdb1 hdb2
hdc: ATAPI 32X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2000kB Cache, (U)DMA
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
ide-floppy driver 0.99.newide
usbcore: registered new driver hiddev
usbcore: registered new driver usbhid
drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.01:USB HID core driver
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
md: md driver 0.90.1 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP: routing cache hash table of 4096 buckets, 128Kbytes
TCP established hash table entries: 262144 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 8, 1835008 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 262144 bind 65536)
Initializing IPsec netlink socket
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17
Freeing unused kernel memory: 196k init 4k chrp 8k prep
SCSI subsystem initialized
scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.36
        <Adaptec 2902/04/10/15/20C/30C SCSI adapter>
        aic7850: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 3/253 SCBs

kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
security:  3 users, 5 roles, 593 types, 64 bools
security:  54 classes, 78034 rules
SELinux:  Completing initialization.
SELinux:  Setting up existing superblocks.
SELinux: initialized (dev hda12, type ext3), uses xattr
SELinux: initialized (dev tmpfs, type tmpfs), uses transition SIDs
SELinux: initialized (dev selinuxfs, type selinuxfs), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev mqueue, type mqueue), not configured for labeling
SELinux: initialized (dev devpts, type devpts), uses transition SIDs
SELinux: initialized (dev eventpollfs, type eventpollfs), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev tmpfs, type tmpfs), uses transition SIDs
SELinux: initialized (dev futexfs, type futexfs), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev pipefs, type pipefs), uses task SIDs
SELinux: initialized (dev sockfs, type sockfs), uses task SIDs
SELinux: initialized (dev proc, type proc), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev bdev, type bdev), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev rootfs, type rootfs), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev sysfs, type sysfs), uses genfs_contexts
SELinux: initialized (dev usbfs, type usbfs), uses genfs_contexts
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 2.88M
IN from bad port 3f4 at f2242a74
floppy0: no floppy controllers found
sungem.c:v0.98 8/24/03 David S. Miller (davem@redhat.com)
PHY ID: 406212, addr: 0
eth0: Sun GEM (PCI) 10/100/1000BaseT Ethernet 00:30:65:8f:4c:16
eth0: Found BCM5201 PHY
ohci_hcd: 2004 Nov 08 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI)
PCI: Enabling device 0001:11:08.0 (0000 -> 0002)
ohci_hcd 0001:11:08.0: OHCI Host Controller
ohci_hcd 0001:11:08.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
ohci_hcd 0001:11:08.0: irq 27, io mem 0x80082000
hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
PCI: Enabling device 0001:11:09.0 (0000 -> 0002)
ohci_hcd 0001:11:09.0: OHCI Host Controller
ohci_hcd 0001:11:09.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
ohci_hcd 0001:11:09.0: irq 28, io mem 0x80081000
hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2
ieee1394: Initialized config rom entry `ip1394'
hub 2-1:1.0: USB hub found
hub 2-1:1.0: 3 ports detected
ohci1394: $Rev: 1250 $ Ben Collins <bcollins@debian.org>
PCI: Enabling device 0001:11:0a.0 (0010 -> 0012)
ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.0 (PCI): IRQ=[63] 
MMIO=[80080000-800807ff]  Max Packet=[2048]
usb 2-1.1: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3
input: USB HID v1.00 Mouse [4D Mouse USB Mouse] on usb-0001:11:09.0-1.1
usb 2-1.3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4
input: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [Mitsumi Electric Apple Extended USB
Keyboard] on usb-0001:11:09.0-1.3
input: USB HID v1.10 Device [Mitsumi Electric Apple Extended USB
Keyboard] on usb-0001:11:09.0-1.3
ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023]  GUID[003065fffe8f4c16]
SELinux: initialized (dev ramfs, type ramfs), uses genfs_contexts
NET: Registered protocol family 10
Disabled Privacy Extensions on device c039f7a4(lo)
IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
device-mapper: 4.4.0-ioctl (2005-01-12) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
EXT3 FS on hda12, internal journal
SELinux: initialized (dev tmpfs, type tmpfs), uses transition SIDs
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS on hda13, internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
SELinux: initialized (dev hda13, type ext3), uses xattr
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS on hda15, internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
SELinux: initialized (dev hda15, type ext3), uses xattr
Adding 1023992k swap on /dev/hda14.  Priority:-1 extents:1
SELinux: initialized (dev binfmt_misc, type binfmt_misc), uses genfs_contexts
Linux Kernel Card Services
  options:  [pci] [cardbus] [pm]
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2002 Netfilter core team
SELinux: initialized (dev rpc_pipefs, type rpc_pipefs), uses genfs_contexts
lp: driver loaded but no devices found
application mixer_applet2 uses obsolete OSS audio interface
CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the University of California
PPP generic driver version 2.4.2
usb 2-1.2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
usb-storage: device found at 5
usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
  Vendor: LEXAR     Model: DIGITAL FILM      Rev: /W1.
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 02
SCSI device sda: 251904 512-byte hdwr sectors (129 MB)
sda: Write Protect is off
sda: Mode Sense: 0d 00 00 00
sda: assuming drive cache: write through
SCSI device sda: 251904 512-byte hdwr sectors (129 MB)
sda: Write Protect is off
sda: Mode Sense: 0d 00 00 00
sda: assuming drive cache: write through
 sda: sda1
Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0,  type 0
usb-storage: device scan complete
SELinux: initialized (dev sda1, type vfat), uses genfs_contexts
_________________
SETSERIAL
_________________
[root@localhost justin]# setserial -a /dev/ttyS0
/dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
        Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
        closing_wait: 3000
        Flags: spd_normal skip_test auto_irq

From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Thu Apr 21 20:22:03 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Thu Apr 21 20:22:54 2005
Subject: fedora 4 test 2 on ppc (dual proc g5)
In-Reply-To: <1114127224.3900.131.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
References: <OF67148005.5FCE7CED-ON85256FEA.005B5E1C-85256FEA.005D8A5B@.itec.suny.edu>
	<1114127224.3900.131.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
Message-ID: <1114129324.29135.110.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 09:47 +1000, Colin Charles wrote:
> max_cpus=1 might work. In fact, whats in there might actually be a
> uniprocessor kernel, because there was a bug (or still is a bug) in
> relation to the installation

No, it's the ppc32 smp kernel. max_cpus=1 won't help. 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=149618

-- 
dwmw2


From byte at aeon.com.my  Thu Apr 21 21:05:48 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Thu Apr 21 21:07:13 2005
Subject: Modem - G4 Powermac - issues
In-Reply-To: <e5d5dc200504211716585214db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e5d5dc200504211716585214db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1114131948.3900.155.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 10:16 +1000, Justin Kelly wrote:

> Does Fedora PPC have support for PowerPC modems at the moment?

Maybe

> When i attempt to use the Internet Wizard or wvdial I get errors '-->
> Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Input/output error' (see wvdial log below)
> 
> also Kudzu doesnt pick up any modems (See kudzu log below)

Its the internal modme that you're referring to, right?

class: OTHER
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: unknown
desc: "Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21154"
vendorId: 1011
deviceId: 0026
subVendorId: 0000
subDeviceId: 0000
pciType: 1
pcidom:    1
pcibus: 10
pcidev:  d
pcifn:  0

What Mac does this come from?

> Bit of a spastic question but do PowerMacs use HCF modems, if so is
> just using the Linuxant drivers the easiest solution?

Doubtful, but give the linuxant free tool for checking a try
-- 
Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi


From linuxppc at gmail.com  Thu Apr 21 21:20:02 2005
From: linuxppc at gmail.com (Justin Kelly)
Date: Thu Apr 21 21:20:02 2005
Subject: Modem - G4 Powermac - issues
In-Reply-To: <1114131948.3900.155.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
References: <e5d5dc200504211716585214db@mail.gmail.com>
	<1114131948.3900.155.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
Message-ID: <e5d5dc2005042118206ce35eed@mail.gmail.com>

On 4/22/05, Colin Charles <byte@aeon.com.my> wrote:
> On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 10:16 +1000, Justin Kelly wrote:
> 
> > Does Fedora PPC have support for PowerPC modems at the moment?
> 
> Maybe
> 
> > When i attempt to use the Internet Wizard or wvdial I get errors '-->
> > Cannot open /dev/ttyS0: Input/output error' (see wvdial log below)
> >
> > also Kudzu doesnt pick up any modems (See kudzu log below)
> 
> Its the internal modme that you're referring to, right?
Correct
> 
> class: OTHER
> bus: PCI
> detached: 0
> driver: unknown
> desc: "Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21154"
> vendorId: 1011
> deviceId: 0026
> subVendorId: 0000
> subDeviceId: 0000
> pciType: 1
> pcidom:    1
> pcibus: 10
> pcidev:  d
> pcifn:  0
> 
> What Mac does this come from?

G4 400 PowerMac (http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/g4saw.shtml)
> 
> > Bit of a spastic question but do PowerMacs use HCF modems, if so is
> > just using the Linuxant drivers the easiest solution?
> 
> Doubtful, but give the linuxant free tool for checking a try
> --
thanks, i'll give it a go - see what happens

> Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
> http://www.bytebot.net/
> "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
> then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi
> 
>

From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Thu Apr 21 21:52:34 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Thu Apr 21 21:53:19 2005
Subject: Modem - G4 Powermac - issues
In-Reply-To: <1114131948.3900.155.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
References: <e5d5dc200504211716585214db@mail.gmail.com>
	<1114131948.3900.155.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
Message-ID: <1114134754.3767.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 11:05 +1000, Colin Charles wrote:
> desc: "Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21154"

That's not the modem; it's an Ethernet chip.

The modem is probably one of the HCF ones, and hence isn't supported
except perhaps by Conexant.

Is there even a sound-only GPL driver for it yet? T'would be cute to use
it with Asterisk.

-- 
dwmw2


From byte at aeon.com.my  Thu Apr 21 21:59:32 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Thu Apr 21 22:00:43 2005
Subject: Modem - G4 Powermac - issues
In-Reply-To: <1114134754.3767.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <e5d5dc200504211716585214db@mail.gmail.com>
	<1114131948.3900.155.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1114134754.3767.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1114135173.3900.164.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 11:52 +1000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > desc: "Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21154"
> 
> That's not the modem; it's an Ethernet chip.

Yes, noticed after posting; I have that same shite in a PC box that
dates back to a Pentium Pro

> The modem is probably one of the HCF ones, and hence isn't supported
> except perhaps by Conexant.

HCF/HSF, but I doubt it. Worth a try, I bought their drivers so my iBook
could get on the Internet. Erps, wait, I think I did for my Thinkpad too

> Is there even a sound-only GPL driver for it yet? T'would be cute to
> use
> it with Asterisk.

I should think so. I should be going to grab a mac mini soon, and I'd
wanna take a closer look at all this stuff. After certain "work" is done
with it, I'd aim to make an "asterisk in a box" thing ;-)

Now, where do I get all that spare free time from
-- 
Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi


From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Thu Apr 21 23:38:52 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Thu Apr 21 23:39:19 2005
Subject: Modem - G4 Powermac - issues
In-Reply-To: <1114135173.3900.164.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
References: <e5d5dc200504211716585214db@mail.gmail.com>
	<1114131948.3900.155.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1114134754.3767.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1114135173.3900.164.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
Message-ID: <1114141133.4341.0.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 11:59 +1000, Colin Charles wrote:
> HCF/HSF, but I doubt it. Worth a try, I bought their drivers so my iBook
> could get on the Internet. Erps, wait, I think I did for my Thinkpad too

They should invent some kind of Java-like bytecode so you can run
binary-only drivers without having to have a different version for each
machine. 

Oh, wait, that sound like ACPI...

-- 
dwmw2


From r at sproat.org  Sat Apr 23 00:17:35 2005
From: r at sproat.org (richard)
Date: Sat Apr 23 00:16:46 2005
Subject: X won't work after an F3 install
Message-ID: <4269CC5F.1010407@sproat.org>

I have installed Fedora 3 on a G3 iBook (late 2002), but none of the 
graphical interfaces will work properly.
When I log into GNOME as root, I get the following messages: "There was 
an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon.  Some things, such as 
themes, sounds, or background settings may not work correctly.  The 
Settings Daemon restarted too many times.  GNOME will still try to 
restart the Settings Daemon next time you log in."  Also: "Nautilus 
can't be used now, due to an unexpected error from Bonobo when 
attempting to locate the factory."  And "There was a problem registering 
the panel with the bonobo-activation server.  The error code is 3. The 
panel will now exit."

When I log in as non-privileged user ("rs") the session is terminated 
immediately with the messages:

"/etc/X11/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and 
utmp
/etc/X11/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w 
/var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -1 ":0" 
"rs" Agent pid 6646

(gnome-session:6621): libgnomevfs-WARNING * *: Unable to create ~/.gnome 
directory: Permission denied.  Could not create per-user gnome 
configuration directory '/home/rs/.gnome2/': Permission denied

Earlier attempts to install worked graphically for a short while then 
degraded rapidly.  I tried running an X autoconfiguration called 
Xautoconfig-0.22-1a.ppc.rpm which makes little visible difference to the 
behaviour.

The machine boots OK and appears to work non-graphically.

Would appreciate any suggestions.

Richard



From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Sat Apr 23 00:39:39 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Sat Apr 23 00:40:18 2005
Subject: X won't work after an F3 install
In-Reply-To: <4269CC5F.1010407@sproat.org>
References: <4269CC5F.1010407@sproat.org>
Message-ID: <1114231181.3419.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, 2005-04-23 at 11:17 +0700, richard wrote:
> (gnome-session:6621): libgnomevfs-WARNING * *: Unable to create ~/.gnome 
> directory: Permission denied.  Could not create per-user gnome 
> configuration directory '/home/rs/.gnome2/': Permission denied

You appear to be unable to write to your own home directory. Can you
create files there if you log in on a text console?

-- 
dwmw2


From r at sproat.org  Sat Apr 23 01:27:32 2005
From: r at sproat.org (richard)
Date: Sat Apr 23 01:26:56 2005
Subject: X won't work after an F3 install
In-Reply-To: <1114231181.3419.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4269CC5F.1010407@sproat.org>
	<1114231181.3419.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4269DCC4.10502@sproat.org>

Yes, you're right, I've just tried.  Root can write, but rs can't write 
to home/rs.

RS

David Woodhouse wrote:

>On Sat, 2005-04-23 at 11:17 +0700, richard wrote:
>  
>
>>(gnome-session:6621): libgnomevfs-WARNING * *: Unable to create ~/.gnome 
>>directory: Permission denied.  Could not create per-user gnome 
>>configuration directory '/home/rs/.gnome2/': Permission denied
>>    
>>
>
>You appear to be unable to write to your own home directory. Can you
>create files there if you log in on a text console?
>
>  
>

From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Sat Apr 23 01:41:19 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Sat Apr 23 01:42:22 2005
Subject: X won't work after an F3 install
In-Reply-To: <4269DCC4.10502@sproat.org>
References: <4269CC5F.1010407@sproat.org>
	<1114231181.3419.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4269DCC4.10502@sproat.org>
Message-ID: <1114234880.3419.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Sat, 2005-04-23 at 12:27 +0700, richard wrote:
> Yes, you're right, I've just tried.  Root can write, but rs can't
> write to home/rs.

Is /home/rs actually owned by the 'rs' user and writable? If not, use
'chown' and/or 'chmod' to fix it. If it _is_ owned by the correct user
and has write permissions, then suspect selinux.

-- 
dwmw2


From r at sproat.org  Sat Apr 23 01:56:16 2005
From: r at sproat.org (richard)
Date: Sat Apr 23 01:55:33 2005
Subject: X won't work after an F3 install
In-Reply-To: <1114234880.3419.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4269CC5F.1010407@sproat.org>	
	<1114231181.3419.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4269DCC4.10502@sproat.org>
	<1114234880.3419.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4269E380.6070707@sproat.org>

I didn't check who owned /home/rs but I did change its owner to rs.  Now 
X runs minimally, with Nautilus not starting, and most icons in the 
taskbars not loading.  The program menu loads and operates; there are no 
icons on the desktop.  But better than before -

Can SELinux be disabled?  Or do you think there are multiple problems?

David Woodhouse wrote:

>On Sat, 2005-04-23 at 12:27 +0700, richard wrote:
>  
>
>>Yes, you're right, I've just tried.  Root can write, but rs can't
>>write to home/rs.
>>    
>>
>
>Is /home/rs actually owned by the 'rs' user and writable? If not, use
>'chown' and/or 'chmod' to fix it. If it _is_ owned by the correct user
>and has write permissions, then suspect selinux.
>
>  
>

From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Sat Apr 23 02:05:50 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Sat Apr 23 02:06:38 2005
Subject: X won't work after an F3 install
In-Reply-To: <4269E380.6070707@sproat.org>
References: <4269CC5F.1010407@sproat.org>
	<1114231181.3419.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4269DCC4.10502@sproat.org>
	<1114234880.3419.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4269E380.6070707@sproat.org>
Message-ID: <1114236351.3419.13.camel@localhost.localdomain>

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From linuxppc at gmail.com  Sun Apr 24 01:56:49 2005
From: linuxppc at gmail.com (Justin Kelly)
Date: Sun Apr 24 01:56:51 2005
Subject: solution - getting a dial-up modem on a PowerMacs to work
Message-ID: <e5d5dc2005042322567d15d62a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

As some of you will know I've been trying for a while now to get my
dial-up modem working on Fedora 4 test 2 and CentOS 4 beta 2.

I finally have some good news :)

On Cent and Fedora PPC i had exactly the same issue, my modem wasn't
being detected, in wvdial I was getting input/output errors
(http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=52183)

my solution - install the latest yellowdog kernel on centos-ppc/fedora

I downloaded the latest ydl kernel (2.6.10-1.ydl.1) from
http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/yellowdog/updates/yellowdog-4.0/ppc/,
installed it. modified /etc/yaboot.conf and /etc/modprobe.conf(see
below) and now dial-up and sound work perfect :)

Im sure this is not everyones preferred method, but it works.

this solution is working for me on centos-ppc, i tried this method on
fedora4test2 but had issues as the installed kernel is newer than the
ydl one, but im sure it'll probably work on fedora 3

>From what i cant see of the ydl kernel the only main difference when
it comes to modems it that it has Macserial compiled in the kernel by
default where as fedora doesn't.  If possible I would suggest this be
compiled in the fedora kernel as well, im no kernel expert, i just
wont dial-up to 'just work'.

Now i just gotta get X working all nice and i'll be very happy.

hint: if anyone else tries this remeber use rpm -ivh and not rpm -uvh
to install the kernel, took me a few re-installs for me to learn this
lesson :)

Cheers

Justin Kelly

______________________________
/etc/modprobe.conf
______________________________
alias eth0 sungem
alias usb-controller ohci-hcd

#ALSA portion
alias char-major-116* snd
alias snd-card-0 snd_powermac

#OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14* soundcore
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0

# card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss

install snd-card-0 /sbin/modprobe ~@~Signore-install snd-card-0 && {
/usr/sbin/aslsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; }
remove snd-card-0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || :; };
/sbin/modprobe -r ~@~Signore-remove
install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modporbe ~@~Signore-install sound-slot-0 &&
{ /bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 22>&1 || :; }
remove sound-slot-0 { /sbin/modprobe -f /etc/.aumixrc -S >>/dev/null
2>&1 || :; }; /sbin/modprobe -r ~@~Signore-remove ~

From rtm at cfa.harvard.edu  Mon Apr 25 20:38:34 2005
From: rtm at cfa.harvard.edu (Ken Young)
Date: Mon Apr 25 20:38:36 2005
Subject: How can I convert my debian machine to Fedora?
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504252027560.12584@shinsky.cfa.harvard.edu>

Hi,

   I'm trying to get Fedora running on an MVME 2700 single board computer.
This little board has a 750 PowerPC processor.   I've got Debian 3.1
running happily atop the 2.6.11.7 kernel.   It runs like a champ, but I'd
like to try running Fedora instead of Debian.   This single board computer
(we've actually got ~35 of them) has no CDROM drive, and I had to do
quite a bit of horsing around with the kernel configuration to get it
to boot anyway (via NFS), so there's no way for me to just boot off of the
iso image CDROMs and install Fedora normally.   Is there any way I can
install from the CDROM images (which, of course, I can mount
with the "-o loop" option) without booting from the CDROMs?   Is
there a script somewhere that will install a minimal set of RPMs
somewhere in my files system, so that I can later mount that area as root?
Is there any way to do a network install without first booting off a
CDROM?

Thanks for any info!

                                             Ken Young
                                Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory
                                      60 Garden Street, MS 78
Phoney Dolson has a secret name.      Cambridge, MA 02138 USA
                                          (617) 495-7330
                                       kyoung@cfa.harvard.edu

From bhughes at elevating.com  Mon Apr 25 21:56:51 2005
From: bhughes at elevating.com (Bret Hughes)
Date: Mon Apr 25 21:57:02 2005
Subject: How can I convert my debian machine to Fedora?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504252027560.12584@shinsky.cfa.harvard.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504252027560.12584@shinsky.cfa.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <1114480611.2679.157.camel@bretsony>

On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 19:38, Ken Young wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>    I'm trying to get Fedora running on an MVME 2700 single board computer.
> This little board has a 750 PowerPC processor.   I've got Debian 3.1
> running happily atop the 2.6.11.7 kernel.   It runs like a champ, but I'd
> like to try running Fedora instead of Debian.   This single board computer
> (we've actually got ~35 of them) has no CDROM drive, and I had to do
> quite a bit of horsing around with the kernel configuration to get it
> to boot anyway (via NFS), so there's no way for me to just boot off of the
> iso image CDROMs and install Fedora normally.   Is there any way I can
> install from the CDROM images (which, of course, I can mount
> with the "-o loop" option) without booting from the CDROMs?   Is
> there a script somewhere that will install a minimal set of RPMs
> somewhere in my files system, so that I can later mount that area as root?
> Is there any way to do a network install without first booting off a
> CDROM?

While not familiar with debian, I have done countless no media installs
with various hardware configs.  You should be able to boot the install
kernel and initrd using your bootloader and walk through the install. 
Once the install is done Fedora leaves a kickstart config with the info
needed to replicate the install.

A glance at the specs does not show a network bootable ethernet but you
can boot the install from the install kernel.

Since you have linux running already, with FC4t2 you can copy vmlinuz
and initrd.img from the install cd /images/pxeboot to a bootable
location and setup grub or whatever to boot them.  
These are the same files as used in the boot.iso but saves the work
getting to them.

I typically place all the files on my installation server and do http
installs but you can of course do nfs installs with just the isos in an
exportable dir.

HTH

Bret


From rtm at cfa.harvard.edu  Mon Apr 25 23:01:53 2005
From: rtm at cfa.harvard.edu (Ken Young)
Date: Mon Apr 25 23:01:54 2005
Subject: How can I convert my debian machine to Fedora?
In-Reply-To: <1114480611.2679.157.camel@bretsony>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504252027560.12584@shinsky.cfa.harvard.edu>
	<1114480611.2679.157.camel@bretsony>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.58.0504252248090.489@poseidon.cfa.harvard.edu>

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Bret Hughes wrote:

> On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 19:38, Ken Young wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >    I'm trying to get Fedora running on an MVME 2700 single board computer.
> > This little board has a 750 PowerPC processor.   I've got Debian 3.1
> > running happily atop the 2.6.11.7 kernel.   It runs like a champ, but I'd
> > like to try running Fedora instead of Debian.   This single board computer
> > (we've actually got ~35 of them) has no CDROM drive, and I had to do
> > quite a bit of horsing around with the kernel configuration to get it
> > to boot anyway (via NFS), so there's no way for me to just boot off of the
> > iso image CDROMs and install Fedora normally.   Is there any way I can
> > install from the CDROM images (which, of course, I can mount
> > with the "-o loop" option) without booting from the CDROMs?   Is
> > there a script somewhere that will install a minimal set of RPMs
> > somewhere in my files system, so that I can later mount that area as root?
> > Is there any way to do a network install without first booting off a
> > CDROM?
>
> While not familiar with debian, I have done countless no media installs
> with various hardware configs.  You should be able to boot the install
> kernel and initrd using your bootloader and walk through the install.

Thanks very much for your quick reply.   Booting the install kernel
is precisely what I'm trying to avoid.   I've got a working kernel,
and I had to tweek quite a few parameters in the .config in
the kernel tree to build something that would work in this weird
little computer (I initially cross-compiled on an x86 workstation,
but now I can compile the kernel natively under Debian).   I
don't think I can boot the install kernel, so
what I'm trying to do is see if there's some way I can jump into the
installation process at a later step.   For example, can I manually
invoke the initrd from the CDROM after booting my kernel?   Or can
I issue commands that would be equivalent to what initrd does?
Or is there just some list of RPMs I could load into some area that
would constitute a minimal distribution of Fedora which I could
subsequently mount as root?

Thanks again for your help.

Ken


From bhughes at elevating.com  Tue Apr 26 00:54:11 2005
From: bhughes at elevating.com (Bret Hughes)
Date: Tue Apr 26 00:54:27 2005
Subject: How can I convert my debian machine to Fedora?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.58.0504252248090.489@poseidon.cfa.harvard.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504252027560.12584@shinsky.cfa.harvard.edu>
	<1114480611.2679.157.camel@bretsony> 
	<Pine.SOL.4.58.0504252248090.489@poseidon.cfa.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <1114491251.2679.177.camel@bretsony>

On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 22:01, Ken Young wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Apr 2005, Bret Hughes wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 19:38, Ken Young wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >    I'm trying to get Fedora running on an MVME 2700 single board computer.
> > > This little board has a 750 PowerPC processor.   I've got Debian 3.1
> > > running happily atop the 2.6.11.7 kernel.   It runs like a champ, but I'd
> > > like to try running Fedora instead of Debian.   This single board computer
> > > (we've actually got ~35 of them) has no CDROM drive, and I had to do
> > > quite a bit of horsing around with the kernel configuration to get it
> > > to boot anyway (via NFS), so there's no way for me to just boot off of the
> > > iso image CDROMs and install Fedora normally.   Is there any way I can
> > > install from the CDROM images (which, of course, I can mount
> > > with the "-o loop" option) without booting from the CDROMs?   Is
> > > there a script somewhere that will install a minimal set of RPMs
> > > somewhere in my files system, so that I can later mount that area as root?
> > > Is there any way to do a network install without first booting off a
> > > CDROM?
> >
> > While not familiar with debian, I have done countless no media installs
> > with various hardware configs.  You should be able to boot the install
> > kernel and initrd using your bootloader and walk through the install.
> 
> Thanks very much for your quick reply.   Booting the install kernel
> is precisely what I'm trying to avoid.   I've got a working kernel,
> and I had to tweek quite a few parameters in the .config in
> the kernel tree to build something that would work in this weird
> little computer (I initially cross-compiled on an x86 workstation,
> but now I can compile the kernel natively under Debian).   I
> don't think I can boot the install kernel, so
> what I'm trying to do is see if there's some way I can jump into the
> installation process at a later step.   For example, can I manually
> invoke the initrd from the CDROM after booting my kernel?   Or can
> I issue commands that would be equivalent to what initrd does?
> Or is there just some list of RPMs I could load into some area that
> would constitute a minimal distribution of Fedora which I could
> subsequently mount as root?
> 

hmm.  I really do not know what is in the install kernel that enables
the launch of the installation.  I suppose, as you indicate that it is
the initscripts in the initrd.  I would try the redhat anaconda list. 
Anaconda being the installation program for redhat.  The guys on that
list and the kickstart list are extremely knowledgeable about the entire
process.

have you tried to boot the kernel?  At some point I think you are going
to bang into module version discrepancy issues and will have to rebuild
a kernel anyway.  I suspect that there is a way to rebuild anaconda and
the install kernel so that you will have the options needed for your
hardware.

FWIW I believe that there is also a redhat embedded list that probably
has some guys using some pretty funky hardware.
 Here is a list of all the redhat lists:

http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/

looks like anaconda-devel-list is a decent bet.

Bret


Sorry I can't be more help.


From byte at aeon.com.my  Tue Apr 26 18:50:12 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Tue Apr 26 18:51:17 2005
Subject: How can I convert my debian machine to Fedora?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504252027560.12584@shinsky.cfa.harvard.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504252027560.12584@shinsky.cfa.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <1114555812.4222.274.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 20:38 -0400, Ken Young wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>    I'm trying to get Fedora running on an MVME 2700 single board computer.
> This little board has a 750 PowerPC processor.   I've got Debian 3.1

750 would be a G3 based one?
/me is trying to remember running off memory

> running happily atop the 2.6.11.7 kernel.   It runs like a champ, but I'd
> like to try running Fedora instead of Debian.   This single board computer
> (we've actually got ~35 of them) has no CDROM drive, and I had to do
> quite a bit of horsing around with the kernel configuration to get it
> to boot anyway (via NFS), so there's no way for me to just boot off of the
> iso image CDROMs and install Fedora normally.   Is there any way I can

You could use tftpboot from the OF directly, no? Then use the regular
Fedora ISOs

> Is there any way to do a network install without first booting off a
> CDROM?

OpenFirmware is your friend
-- 
Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi


From byte at aeon.com.my  Tue Apr 26 18:52:53 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Tue Apr 26 18:53:54 2005
Subject: How can I convert my debian machine to Fedora?
In-Reply-To: <1114491251.2679.177.camel@bretsony>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0504252027560.12584@shinsky.cfa.harvard.edu>
	<1114480611.2679.157.camel@bretsony>
	<Pine.SOL.4.58.0504252248090.489@poseidon.cfa.harvard.edu>
	<1114491251.2679.177.camel@bretsony>
Message-ID: <1114555973.4222.283.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 23:54 -0500, Bret Hughes wrote:

> have you tried to boot the kernel?  At some point I think you are going
> to bang into module version discrepancy issues and will have to rebuild
> a kernel anyway.  I suspect that there is a way to rebuild anaconda and
> the install kernel so that you will have the options needed for your
> hardware.

You have to rebuild the initrd

A good resource on "customising" the installer is at:
http://rau.homedns.org/twiki/bin/view/Anaconda/AnacondaDocumentationProject

-- 
Colin Charles, byte@aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi


From overholt at redhat.com  Wed Apr 27 16:49:34 2005
From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt)
Date: Wed Apr 27 16:49:49 2005
Subject: fedora 4 test 2 on ppc (dual proc g5)
In-Reply-To: <1114129324.29135.110.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <OF67148005.5FCE7CED-ON85256FEA.005B5E1C-85256FEA.005D8A5B@.itec.suny.edu>
	<1114127224.3900.131.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1114129324.29135.110.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <20050427204934.GA11644@redhat.com>

* David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> [2005-04-21 20:31]:
> On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 09:47 +1000, Colin Charles wrote:
> > max_cpus=1 might work. In fact, whats in there might actually be a
> > uniprocessor kernel, because there was a bug (or still is a bug) in
> > relation to the installation
> 
> No, it's the ppc32 smp kernel. max_cpus=1 won't help. 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=149618

I'm seeing similar behaviour to comment 9 in this bug.  I installed from
test2 but have been updating regularly since.  I can't boot any kernels
other than 'linux-up'.

/etc/yaboot.conf:

# yaboot.conf generated by anaconda

boot=/dev/sda3
init-message=Welcome to Fedora Core\!
Hit <TAB> for boot options

partition=5
timeout=20
install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot
delay=5
default=latest-smp
image=/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1268_FC4smp
	label=latest-smp
	read-only
	initrd=/initrd-2.6.11-1.1268_FC4smp.img
	append="rhgb quiet root=LABEL=/1"

[...]

image=/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1226_FC4
	label=linux-up
	read-only
	initrd=/initrd-2.6.11-1.1226_FC4.img
	append="rhgb quiet root=LABEL=/1"

macosx=/dev/sda4
magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot

/proc/cpuinfo:
[...]
motherboard:  PowerMac7,3 MacRISC4 Power Macintosh
detected as:  336 (PowerMac G5)

Anyone have any ideas?

Andrew

From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Thu Apr 28 01:58:34 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Thu Apr 28 01:58:36 2005
Subject: fedora 4 test 2 on ppc (dual proc g5)
In-Reply-To: <20050427204934.GA11644@redhat.com>
References: <OF67148005.5FCE7CED-ON85256FEA.005B5E1C-85256FEA.005D8A5B@.itec.suny.edu>
	<1114127224.3900.131.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1114129324.29135.110.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20050427204934.GA11644@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1114667914.12012.315.camel@baythorne.infradead.org>

On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 16:49 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote:
> I'm seeing similar behaviour to comment 9 in this bug.  I installed from
> test2 but have been updating regularly since.  I can't boot any kernels
> other than 'linux-up'.

This persists even after you 'rpm -e --allmatches kernel-smp' ?

-- 
dwmw2



From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Thu Apr 28 07:31:54 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (P Cieslar)
Date: Thu Apr 28 08:29:40 2005
Subject: Accessing OSX volume through FC4
Message-ID: <4270C9AA.1030005@cwgsy.net>

Hi.  I am dual booting panther and FC4 test 2, but am unable to access 
any files under the panther install.  I have tried the mount command, I 
have also tried using hfsutils.  Below is the output:
--
[paulc]# hfs
hfsutils version 3.2.6 - Copyright (C) 1996-1998 Robert Leslie
This is free software but comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
Type `license' for details.

hfs> hmount /dev/hda10
Volume name is "osx" (locked)
Volume was created on Sun 03 Apr 2005 05:50:28 PM BST
Volume was last modified on Sun 03 Apr 2005 05:50:28 PM BST
Volume has 0 bytes free
hfs> dir
fi BTFL/DMGR         0    327680 03 Apr 2005 50:28 Desktop DB
fi DTFL/DMGR         0         0 03 Apr 2005 50:28 Desktop DF
fi FNDR/MACS         0         0 03 Apr 2005 50:28 Finder
f  ttro/ttxt         0      1781 03 Apr 2005 50:28 ReadMe
fi zsys/MACS     22233         0 03 Apr 2005 50:28 System
hfs> hcd Desktop\ DB
Error: not a directory
hfs>
--
Any advice would be appreciate.

Thanks.

Paul C



From pauln at truemesh.com  Thu Apr 28 08:45:25 2005
From: pauln at truemesh.com (Paul Nasrat)
Date: Thu Apr 28 08:44:15 2005
Subject: Accessing OSX volume through FC4
In-Reply-To: <4270C9AA.1030005@cwgsy.net>
References: <4270C9AA.1030005@cwgsy.net>
Message-ID: <1114692325.3728.38.camel@anu.eridu>

On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 12:31 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
> Hi.  I am dual booting panther and FC4 test 2, but am unable to access 
> any files under the panther install.  I have tried the mount command, I 
> have also tried using hfsutils.  Below is the output:

mkdir /mnt/osx
mount -t hfsplus /dev/hda10 /mnt/osx

Paul


From cwalther at gmx.ch  Thu Apr 28 08:50:59 2005
From: cwalther at gmx.ch (Christian Walther)
Date: Thu Apr 28 08:51:19 2005
Subject: Accessing OSX volume through FC4
In-Reply-To: <4270C9AA.1030005@cwgsy.net>
References: <4270C9AA.1030005@cwgsy.net>
Message-ID: <6eff6858465fdb46967ec57b7e94bcee@gmx.ch>

P Cieslar wrote:

> I am dual booting panther and FC4 test 2, but am unable to access any 
> files under the panther install.  I have tried the mount command, I 
> have also tried using hfsutils.

Your Mac OS X partition is HFS+, not HFS. What you're seeing with 
hfsutils is just the HFS wrapper that's there for backwards 
compatibility - that's what the ReadMe file there explains.

You can either access the partition with hfsplusutils (hpmount, hpcd, 
hpls etc.) or mount it as HFS+. I have the following in my /etc/fstab:

/dev/hda11		/mnt/macos		hfsplus	ro		0 0

  -Christian


From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Thu Apr 28 08:15:13 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (P Cieslar)
Date: Thu Apr 28 09:12:57 2005
Subject: Accessing OSX volume through FC4
In-Reply-To: <6eff6858465fdb46967ec57b7e94bcee@gmx.ch>
References: <4270C9AA.1030005@cwgsy.net>
	<6eff6858465fdb46967ec57b7e94bcee@gmx.ch>
Message-ID: <4270D3D1.8000705@cwgsy.net>

Thanks Christian and Paul, the mount command and the fstab entry worked.

Paul C

Christian Walther wrote:

> P Cieslar wrote:
>
>> I am dual booting panther and FC4 test 2, but am unable to access any 
>> files under the panther install.  I have tried the mount command, I 
>> have also tried using hfsutils.
>
>
> Your Mac OS X partition is HFS+, not HFS. What you're seeing with 
> hfsutils is just the HFS wrapper that's there for backwards 
> compatibility - that's what the ReadMe file there explains.
>
> You can either access the partition with hfsplusutils (hpmount, hpcd, 
> hpls etc.) or mount it as HFS+. I have the following in my /etc/fstab:
>
> /dev/hda11        /mnt/macos        hfsplus    ro        0 0
>
>  -Christian
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ppc
>
>


From overholt at redhat.com  Thu Apr 28 11:16:30 2005
From: overholt at redhat.com (Andrew Overholt)
Date: Thu Apr 28 11:16:38 2005
Subject: fedora 4 test 2 on ppc (dual proc g5)
In-Reply-To: <1114667914.12012.315.camel@baythorne.infradead.org>
References: <OF67148005.5FCE7CED-ON85256FEA.005B5E1C-85256FEA.005D8A5B@.itec.suny.edu>
	<1114127224.3900.131.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1114129324.29135.110.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20050427204934.GA11644@redhat.com>
	<1114667914.12012.315.camel@baythorne.infradead.org>
Message-ID: <20050428151630.GA4238@redhat.com>

* David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> [2005-04-28 02:00]:
> On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 16:49 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote:
> > I'm seeing similar behaviour to comment 9 in this bug.  I installed from
> > test2 but have been updating regularly since.  I can't boot any kernels
> > other than 'linux-up'.
> 
> This persists even after you 'rpm -e --allmatches kernel-smp' ?

That fixed it.  Thanks!

Did I miss an FAQ somewhere?

Andrew

From dwmw2 at infradead.org  Thu Apr 28 12:26:21 2005
From: dwmw2 at infradead.org (David Woodhouse)
Date: Thu Apr 28 12:26:23 2005
Subject: fedora 4 test 2 on ppc (dual proc g5)
In-Reply-To: <20050428151630.GA4238@redhat.com>
References: <OF67148005.5FCE7CED-ON85256FEA.005B5E1C-85256FEA.005D8A5B@.itec.suny.edu>
	<1114127224.3900.131.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>
	<1114129324.29135.110.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<20050427204934.GA11644@redhat.com>
	<1114667914.12012.315.camel@baythorne.infradead.org>
	<20050428151630.GA4238@redhat.com>
Message-ID: <1114705581.27227.146.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>

On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 11:16 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote:
> * David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org> [2005-04-28 02:00]:
> > On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 16:49 -0400, Andrew Overholt wrote:
> > > I'm seeing similar behaviour to comment 9 in this bug.  I installed from
> > > test2 but have been updating regularly since.  I can't boot any kernels
> > > other than 'linux-up'.
> > 
> > This persists even after you 'rpm -e --allmatches kernel-smp' ?
> 
> That fixed it.  Thanks!
> 
> Did I miss an FAQ somewhere?

Not really. It's discussed in
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=149618 though.

-- 
dwmw2


From roland at redhat.com  Thu Apr 28 23:49:41 2005
From: roland at redhat.com (Roland McGrath)
Date: Thu Apr 28 23:49:45 2005
Subject: yum vs ppc64
Message-ID: <200504290349.j3T3nfBY032240@magilla.sf.frob.com>

I did an install on a G5 from the rawhide "ppc" distribution, which was fine.
(I hit the kernel-smp problem but got around that.)

However, now when I try "yum upgrade", it goes around looking for ppc64
repositories and trying to replace everything with the ppc64 packages.  I
assume that this is not what I really want.  I would expect yum to upgrade
to the latest flavor of the same stuff I got from doing the install.

What do other people with ppc64 machines do to update?


Thanks,
Roland

From roland at redhat.com  Thu Apr 28 23:52:38 2005
From: roland at redhat.com (Roland McGrath)
Date: Thu Apr 28 23:52:40 2005
Subject: Apple wide LCD
Message-ID: <200504290352.j3T3qcI8032256@magilla.sf.frob.com>

Anyone using FC4/rawhide X with an "Apple Cinema Display 20-inch
widescreen" connected by DVI to the Radeon 9600 that came in the G5?
It's all wonky.  aI copied some xorg.conf magic from a YellowDog install
that works, which makes it manage the aspect ratio, but I think at low
resolution.  The colors are way, way off.

Also, what about console (non-X) screenblanking for the LCD?  It sits there
all night with the backlight on.  Is the support to control this missing?


Thanks,
Roland

From krh at bitplanet.net  Fri Apr 29 04:02:50 2005
From: krh at bitplanet.net (Kristian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=F8gsberg?=)
Date: Fri Apr 29 00:03:29 2005
Subject: Apple wide LCD
In-Reply-To: <200504290352.j3T3qcI8032256@magilla.sf.frob.com>
References: <200504290352.j3T3qcI8032256@magilla.sf.frob.com>
Message-ID: <1114761771.19927.2.camel@www.bitplanet.net>

On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 20:52 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:
> Anyone using FC4/rawhide X with an "Apple Cinema Display 20-inch
> widescreen" connected by DVI to the Radeon 9600 that came in the G5?
> It's all wonky.

I'm using a Mac Mini with the 23" LCD with rawhide.  I'm using the
UseFBDev option and a custom mode line.  xorg.conf attached.

cheers, 
Kristian

-------------- next part --------------
# XFree86 4 configuration created by pyxf86config

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "Default Layout"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# RgbPath is the location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the 
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
	RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
	FontPath     "unix/:7100"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load  "dbe"
	Load  "extmod"
	Load  "fbdevhw"
	Load  "glx"
	Load  "record"
	Load  "freetype"
	Load  "type1"
	Load  "dri"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#	Option	"Xleds"		"1 2 3"
# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
#	Option	"XkbDisable"
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#	Option	"XkbModel"	"pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#	Option	"XkbModel"	"microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#	Option	"XkbLayout"	"de"
# or:
#	Option	"XkbLayout"	"de"
#	Option	"XkbVariant"	"nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#	Option	"XkbOptions"	"ctrl:swapcaps"
# Or if you just want both to be control, use:
#	Option	"XkbOptions"	"ctrl:nocaps"
#
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "kbd"
	Option	    "XkbModel" "pc105"
	Option	    "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Mouse0"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
	Option	    "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Apple Cinema Display 23 LCD"
	HorizSync    30.0 - 130.0
	VertRefresh  60.0 - 90.0
        ModeLine "1920x1200" 230 1920 1936 2096 2528 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier  "Videocard0"
	Driver      "radeon"
	VendorName  "Videocard vendor"
	BoardName   "Framebuffer driver (generic)"
#	Option	    "NoDDC"
	Option "UseFBDev" "true"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Videocard0"
	Monitor    "Monitor0"
	DefaultDepth     24
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
		Modes    "1920x1200" "1600x1050"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
	Group        0
	Mode         0666
EndSection

From roland at redhat.com  Fri Apr 29 01:19:33 2005
From: roland at redhat.com (Roland McGrath)
Date: Fri Apr 29 01:19:52 2005
Subject: Apple wide LCD
In-Reply-To: Kristian Høgsberg's message of  Friday, 29 April 2005 04:02:50 -0400 <1114761771.19927.2.camel@www.bitplanet.net>
Message-ID: <200504290519.j3T5JXVu007980@magilla.sf.frob.com>

How did you produce that modeline?  
The 20-inch only does 1680x1050, not 1920x1200.


From krh at bitplanet.net  Fri Apr 29 01:49:45 2005
From: krh at bitplanet.net (Kristian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=F8gsberg?=)
Date: Fri Apr 29 01:49:56 2005
Subject: Apple wide LCD
In-Reply-To: <200504290519.j3T5JXVu007980@magilla.sf.frob.com>
References: <200504290519.j3T5JXVu007980@magilla.sf.frob.com>
Message-ID: <1114753785.19927.25.camel@www.bitplanet.net>

On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 22:19 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:
> How did you produce that modeline?  
> The 20-inch only does 1680x1050, not 1920x1200.

I googled for 1920x1200 modeline - there's a number of hits for
1680x1050 as well.



From pauln at truemesh.com  Fri Apr 29 03:00:29 2005
From: pauln at truemesh.com (Paul Nasrat)
Date: Fri Apr 29 02:59:05 2005
Subject: yum vs ppc64
In-Reply-To: <200504290349.j3T3nfBY032240@magilla.sf.frob.com>
References: <200504290349.j3T3nfBY032240@magilla.sf.frob.com>
Message-ID: <1114758029.3728.47.camel@anu.eridu>

On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 20:49 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:
> I did an install on a G5 from the rawhide "ppc" distribution, which was fine.
> (I hit the kernel-smp problem but got around that.)
> 
> However, now when I try "yum upgrade", it goes around looking for ppc64
> repositories and trying to replace everything with the ppc64 packages.  I
> assume that this is not what I really want.  I would expect yum to upgrade
> to the latest flavor of the same stuff I got from doing the install.
> 
> What do other people with ppc64 machines do to update?

cat /etc/rpm/platform
ppc-redhat-linux

cat /etc/rpm/macros

%_transaction_color   3

Works on fish.  If those weren't setup properly can you file a bug.

Paul


From roland at redhat.com  Fri Apr 29 04:11:42 2005
From: roland at redhat.com (Roland McGrath)
Date: Fri Apr 29 04:11:51 2005
Subject: yum vs ppc64
In-Reply-To: Paul Nasrat's message of  Friday,
	29 April 2005 08:00:29 +0100 <1114758029.3728.47.camel@anu.eridu>
Message-ID: <200504290811.j3T8BgJX008445@magilla.sf.frob.com>

> cat /etc/rpm/platform
> ppc-redhat-linux

It was ppc64-redhat-linux.

> Works on fish.  If those weren't setup properly can you file a bug.

What writec /etc/rpm/platform?

From byte at aeon.com.my  Sat Apr 30 01:08:04 2005
From: byte at aeon.com.my (Colin Charles)
Date: Sat Apr 30 01:40:00 2005
Subject: Apple wide LCD
In-Reply-To: <200504290519.j3T5JXVu007980@magilla.sf.frob.com>
References: <200504290519.j3T5JXVu007980@magilla.sf.frob.com>
Message-ID: <1114837684.7742.91.camel@arena.soho.bytebot.net>

On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 22:19 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:
> How did you produce that modeline?  

Don't know if the YDL tool, Xautoconfig has been configured to use these
larger screens, but that one generates nice modelines for you
-- 
Colin Charles, http://www.bytebot.net/


From djfake at yahoo.com  Sat Apr  9 19:15:32 2005
From: djfake at yahoo.com (dj =?ISO-8859-1?Q?fak=E9?=)
Date: Mon May  2 18:17:26 2005
Subject: Ubuntu Install
In-Reply-To: <E1DKINZ-0005GS-34@canuck.infradead.org>
References: <E1DKINZ-0005GS-34@canuck.infradead.org>
Message-ID: <1113088132.4466.4.camel@one.localdomain>

don't know if this will get me "banned"	from the fedora-ppc list, but I
did an install of (K)Ubuntu today and it was the easiest linux
installation I've ever done: download one (1) iso image, burn it do
disc, boot off of it, type "install", accept the prompts (for the most
part), and within 20 minutes I had a dual-boot configured and running on
my Mini. 

c


From alpinism.nl at gmail.com  Wed Apr 13 07:51:39 2005
From: alpinism.nl at gmail.com (climb rocks)
Date: Mon May  2 18:17:31 2005
Subject: Fwd: Status of Firewire install/boot
In-Reply-To: <82ff434405041303365fdf3e2f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <82ff434405041303365fdf3e2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <82ff4344050413044538906fac@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

Having been an active fedora user on x86 since core 1 through 3 I am
looking forward to getting it going on my new ibook. I am maintainign
OSX on the internal drive and wish to have linux on the firewire
drive. I have purchased on with the oxford 911 firewire bridge as this
seems to work best in the random googlings on the subject have
revealed. Hs anyone here succeeded in getting this to work? Alternatly
has Yellowdog contributed it's patch back to fedora?

Kind regards,

dave

From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Fri Apr 15 08:26:11 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (Paul Cieslar)
Date: Mon May  2 18:17:35 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
Message-ID: <200504151324.AA207487030@cwgsy.net>

Hi.

cat /etc/modprobe.conf lists:
--
alias eth0 sungem
alias usb-controller ohci-hcd
--

As a side matter - do i have to add my modem to this list to get it recognised.

thanks.

Paul C


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Paul Nasrat <pauln@truemesh.com>
Date:  Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:09:43 +0100

>On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 12:41 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
>> Hi Colin.  After your subtle hint below, I installed FC4 Test 2 last 
>> night.  Whenever I login, the message "No volume control elements and/or 
>> devices found."
>> The output of lspci is:
>> --
>> 
>> 00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea AGP
>> 00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility
>> M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
>> 0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea PCI
>> 0001:10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea Mac I/O
>> 0001:10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
>> 0001:10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
>> 0002:20:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea Internal
>> PCI
>> 0002:20:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea
>> FireWire (rev ff)
>> 0002:20:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea
>> GMAC (Sun GEM)
>
>Can you cat /etc/modprobe.conf
>
>Paul
>
>
 

 
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From pcieslar at cwgsy.net  Fri Apr 15 08:56:42 2005
From: pcieslar at cwgsy.net (Paul Cieslar)
Date: Mon May  2 18:17:46 2005
Subject: VNCviewer
Message-ID: <200504151351.AA218366044@cwgsy.net>




---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Paul Cieslar" <pcieslar@cwgsy.net>
Reply-To: <pcieslar@cwgsy.net>
Date:  Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:24:42 +0100

Hi.

cat /etc/modprobe.conf lists:
--
alias eth0 sungem
alias usb-controller ohci-hcd
--

As a side matter - do i have to add my modem to this list to get it recognised.

thanks.

Paul C


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Paul Nasrat <pauln@truemesh.com>
Date:  Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:09:43 +0100

>On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 12:41 +0100, P Cieslar wrote:
>> Hi Colin.  After your subtle hint below, I installed FC4 Test 2 last 
>> night.  Whenever I login, the message "No volume control elements and/or 
>> devices found."
>> The output of lspci is:
>> --
>> 
>> 00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea AGP
>> 00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility
>> M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
>> 0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea PCI
>> 0001:10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea Mac I/O
>> 0001:10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
>> 0001:10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB
>> 0002:20:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea Internal
>> PCI
>> 0002:20:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea
>> FireWire (rev ff)
>> 0002:20:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea
>> GMAC (Sun GEM)
>
>Can you cat /etc/modprobe.conf
>
>Paul
>
>
 

 
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From alpinism.nl at gmail.com  Fri Apr 15 13:51:42 2005
From: alpinism.nl at gmail.com (climb rocks)
Date: Mon May  2 18:17:49 2005
Subject: progress with firewire boot/install
In-Reply-To: <E1DMTEz-0003bi-6Q@canuck.infradead.org>
References: <E1DMTEz-0003bi-6Q@canuck.infradead.org>
Message-ID: <82ff434405041510514db4f29f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

has anyone booked any success with firewire drive installs ?

From patrik at ucolick.org  Mon Apr 18 01:53:04 2005
From: patrik at ucolick.org (Patrik Jonsson)
Date: Mon May  2 18:17:55 2005
Subject: FC3 PPC development tree / installing FC3 on B&W PowerMacG3
Message-ID: <42634B40.5030501@ucolick.org>

Hi everyone,
I've just started trying to install fc3 on my old PowerCenterPro. I've 
got the installer starting using BootX, but then I get to a similar 
problem as was reported here back in november:

>but at the PowerMacG3 -- which should work with the bmac driver -- there I
>don't i cannot get the network connection to work even when i mannually
>select the driver. The automatic detection doesn't work at all.
>
>>/ > but with the bmac driver. alt Alt+F4 it says:
>/>/ > <7> divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0
>/>/ > <6> eth0: BMAC+ at 00:05:02:61:a3:51
>/>/ > so i guess anaconda could load the driver. but it doesn't go further
>/>/ > then. It just keeps me asking to select a driver...
>/>/ 
>/>/ Ah ok this is a bug, I've not been able to track down yet.
>/
>  
>
My problem is exactly the same, except it's for the mace eth driver. 
When I try to load the driver, I get:

/<7> divert: allocating divert_blk for eth0
//6> eth0: MACE at 00:05:9a:a0:51:88, chip revision 9.64

/

But the installer keeps asking for a driver.  This is with the "fixed" 
installer at ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/fedora-ppc/fc3-ppc/, so I 
was hoping it would work. Was it fixed only for the bmac driver?

So my net install is dead in the water at that point. Another problem is 
that the onboard scsi (53c94) isn't recognized. I have to hook my drives 
up to the aic7xxx card for the installer to see them. Any ideas about 
this? This isn't necessarily a huge problem since I can hook the drives 
up to the card during the install, assuming I can get 53c94 to work for 
the actual OS.

Finally, there are weird video artifacts in the installer, like garbled 
columns going down the screen. In these columns, pixels are flickering 
rapidly and seem to be a copy of the column 5 chars to the right... I've 
seen some emails about this being broken somewhere in the 2.6 kernels, 
but no solution. I then tried to boot using my voodoo3 card using 
"video=tdfx", but then I don't get past the first "pmac_init" screen. 
Any ideas here? Does the installer kernel simply lack drivers for tdfx 
and 53c94?

Any hints would be much appreciated.

/Patrik Jonsson


