<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div>Be smart, let it go.</div></span></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><br><div><div>On Feb 04, 2011, at 07:21 AM, Michael Büsch wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 07:06 -0500, Dale Walsh wrote:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If you wish to knit-pick over details knock yourself out but you need <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">to stop making assumptions about what I know and don't know.</div> </blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">No. You really just need to stop guessing around.</div></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>What guessing?</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Explaining in great detail serves no real purpose</div> </blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I already figured out that you're not interested in falsifications of</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">your flawed logics.</div></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>More dribble which has nothing to do with your code not working in ubuntu 10.04.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">It also seems that people involved with these projects are too <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">sensitive, if you don't say something just right or don't mention <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">something they get bent out of shape and go off attacking people <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">labeling them as morons and idiots, very professional for someone <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">involved in a public project who goal is to support the code they <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">provide.</div> </blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Please quote me with context saying that you're a moron or an idiot.</div></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div>Are you really that slow that you don't know and can't recall what you wrote or see the implications when you state what you believe to be factual without foundation?</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>If I put my car key in the ignition of my car, turn it and nothing happens I call the dealer because it's obviously broken.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>You most likely would interpret that statement to be only what is stated and have some smart-assed comment that implies I'm not smart enough to determine if there is an electrical issue such as a dead battery preventing the car from starting or I didn't turn the key far enough and I conclude this based on the way in which you respond not only to me but others.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>--- START OF QUOTE ---</div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Feb 03, 2011, at 19:29 PM, Michael Büsch wrote:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; ">That guy will brick his device anyway, as</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">he _will_ write incorrect data to the SPROM.</div></blockquote></div></div><div>--- END OF QUOTE ---</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">YOU are the one getting personal. YOU are the one who claimed in</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the first place that our software was crap.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div> <blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I'm not familiar with the code base because after looking at all the <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">files I've personally decided it's a structured mess</div> </blockquote><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">See?</div></blockquote><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>I specifically state it is my personal decision regarding the state of the source tree, are you now accepting responsibility for the entire ubuntu source tree?</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>The remark does not attack your code and I am not the only person who has a poor opinion regarding the state of the ubuntu source tree.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>If you want to be responsible for a public project that offers public support that's great but expect that issue will come up and people will expect support and this has nothing to do with the purpose for which they use the software, my opinion is this, it's a public project which offers support and you seem to be the leader so, if it's broke, fix it, if it isn't broke attempt to help the user in a kind and courteous manner and if you can't be kind and courteous don't involve yourself in assisting them, they are already frustrated enough by the fact that the software doesn't work the way they expect it to that they don't need to be further aggravated by a person offering support.</div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Greetings Michael.</div></blockquote><br></div><div>My comments about you are generalized and in defense of not only remarks and statements you have made towards me but also others.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>You really don't appear to have enough common sense to let things go and believe you have made no attacks on anyone at any time which is sad at best but you are who you are.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>When I receive off-list comments from users who are afraid to ask questions because of the way in which you and others appear to respond to people in general who are less knowledgeable than you about your code or the code base in general, this only further substantiates my opinion that you should seek professional help and refrain from responding to any pleas for assistance because you don't and wont play nice with others.</div><div><br></div><div>Others have chimed in and made comments regarding your condescending attitude and behavior but you seem to relish in the arguments, my personal opinion of you as a sane and respectful party who has the best interest of the b43 project they claim to represent has sunk so low that it's not publicly possible to state it without violating some law.</div><div><br></div><div>If people didn't think you were so important to the project and had a replacement they would have dumped you years ago, they accept your antics because it's the trade-off they are willing to accept and many people from this list have made this comment to me, the difference is, I don't mind saying it publicly.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>Because they are willing to accept it doesn't mean every person who comes into contact with you must and I certainly don't.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div>Do yourself a favor and let it go, it's not beneficial to the project to act in this manner and it is my observation that you really seem to have no common sense regarding your treatment towards others when you can make unfounded remarks about an individual as if it were factual.</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div>I understand how people with power will abuse that power when ever someone questions their actions and attitudes</div></div></body></html>