TR: Client station sends probes on DFS channels

Jean-Pierre Tosoni jp.tosoni at acksys.fr
Mon Dec 5 00:43:55 PST 2016


Just keeping the list informed... At some point the discussion turned private.

Jean-Pierre Tosoni

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Adrian Chadd [mailto:adrian.chadd at gmail.com] 
Envoyé : jeudi 1 décembre 2016 19:20
À : Jean-Pierre Tosoni
Objet : Re: Client station sends probes on DFS channels

well, if it fails ETSI certification then you can file a complain with QCA. :) they're passing certification tests with it atm, so...


-a


On 1 December 2016 at 10:18, Jean-Pierre Tosoni <jp.tosoni at acksys.fr> wrote:
> :(
> Can we expect a fix someday?
>
> JP
>
>
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Adrian Chadd [mailto:adrian.chadd at gmail.com] Envoyé : jeudi 1 
>> décembre 2016 19:00 À : Jean-Pierre Tosoni Objet : Re: Client station 
>> sends probes on DFS channels
>>
>> firmware
>>
>>
>> -a
>>
>>
>> On 1 December 2016 at 09:53, Jean-Pierre Tosoni <jp.tosoni at acksys.fr>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi again,
>> >
>> > That being said, is this 10-minutes delay implemented in ath10k or 
>> > in the firmware of the card? Or is it configurable maybe?
>> >
>> > Jean-Pierre
>> >
>> >> -----Message d'origine-----
>> >> De : Adrian Chadd [mailto:adrian.chadd at gmail.com] Envoyé : jeudi 1 
>> >> décembre 2016 18:21 À : Jean-Pierre Tosoni Objet : Re: Client 
>> >> station sends probes on DFS channels
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> So the implementations I've seen all treat "I see beacons" as "the 
>> >> channel is blessed"; there's no logic for doing it for an AP that 
>> >> you're associated to.
>> >>
>> >> That's likely what we need clarification around.
>> >>
>> >> The "controlled by a master" doesn't necessarily imply that the 
>> >> STA is controlled by the AP, just that the AP has gone through the 
>> >> CAC and is doing DFS checking. Otherwise the STA couldn't actually 
>> >> send assoc req/response frames, because the station hasn't yet 
>> >> associated to an AP to be considered "in control" by it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -adrian
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 1 December 2016 at 09:09, Jean-Pierre Tosoni 
>> >> <jp.tosoni at acksys.fr>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Not quite so.
>> >> >
>> >> >> * if you get a CSA, the STA should move and not use the air
>> >> >
>> >> > No, because the STA is not associated: it is currently searching 
>> >> > for an
>> >> AP.
>> >> > So, it cannot receive a CSA, and should do a passive scan.
>> >> >
>> >> >> * if you just start another AP And then kill the APs, there's 
>> >> >> nothing above that says when the STA should stop talking?
>> >> >
>> >> > Wrong, the norm says that the STA should *not begin* talking 
>> >> > (since it is not associated with a master AP)
>> >> >
>> >> >> -----Message d'origine-----
>> >> >> De : Adrian Chadd [mailto:adrian.chadd at gmail.com] Envoyé : 
>> >> >> jeudi 1 décembre 2016 17:53 À : Jean-Pierre Tosoni Cc :
>> >> >> ath10k at lists.infradead.org Objet : Re: Client station sends 
>> >> >> probes on DFS channels
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So to be clear:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> * if you get a CSA, the STA should move and not use the air
>> >> >> * if you just start another AP And then kill the APs, there's 
>> >> >> nothing above that says when the STA should stop talking?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -adrian
>> >> >
>> >
>




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